Hello,

This is brain babble and dialogue to converse with as in making conversation......I have not written any thing of true value for you, just visualizing numbers is all.

In reality it seems like “ellen” as in "Greek" is just numerology of sorts???? Is this of real value in some form of code or something? ( Just wondering) ...........

Just figuring here: I am thinking of what the Egyptians valued 123 as - I do not think they realized it as such as Lucas did, but, they might have - but their Rc are not in sync with this number sequence...... however, as formula it might have been used for values on slope and perimeters maybe ===or???? what?????

Lucas number as 213 =4 as in 2+1=3 & 1+3 = 4 as 2134 as in 3+4 =7 and so forth, related to Fibonacci and Golden Ratio..1.618

To say it is a Lucas number you must transpose the first two digits to 123 not as 213 - this changes the sequence to 123 = 1+2 = 3 & 2+3 = 5 as in 12358 as 3+5 =8 as this is the Fibonacci number sequence which is different from the Lucas-------- Actually 123 is a ratio of division of each number in the Lucas sequence (as I showed above the difference between Fibonacci and Lucas) ----------123/76 = 1/618421053 ------ THE GOLDEN RATIO is usually rounded off to 1.618 ----but continues on beyond the decimal as 1.6180339887

The Lucas value is a bit higher than the Golden Ratio, Phi, but, this is typical to round up or down in cases where minute values are not negligible.

Here I placed the numbers to see pattern of where 123 relates to Lucas -

3/1 = 3
4/3 = 1.3333333333
7/4 = 1.75
11/7 = 1.571428571
18/11 = 1.636363636
29/18 = 1.611111111
47/29 = 1.620689655
76/47 = 1.617021277
123//76 = 1.618421053
199/123 = 1.617886179


I am not familiar with the Mian–Chowla sequence.......I did read it, and wonder what it is used for???? Is it used for an algorithm?


123 - telephony - the emergency phone number in Egypt (wiki) ----I think it is 123 because it is easy to remember as the numbers follow in order - I do not think it is magic or special as in some hidden agenda or legacy of a sacred number - (but I may be wrong).

Next:
123 network links more than 30 Egyptian banks supporting more than 1500 ATMs in Egypt -------

Question: Are you thinking that because there might be possible symbology as in the Egyptians containing their banks with in a corporate base as in the perimeter of a square circumscribed by a circle which perimeter is the inverse of the fine structure constant as in all is confined with in a specific and defined value?

"Are there any ancient Egyptian sources referring to this number? Does it simply have to do with the fact that this number consists of the first three arithmetic digits “1”, “2”, “3”? If so this would be an indication that they analyzed digit wise numbers before the place value – modern number system was invented. "

Of course the place value had to come after recognition of the value of digits because when they were added up there was a sum that was equal to the two parts but different. The base ten system was developed to allow for the spaces or columns of tens hundreds and so forth- so, the digits would have been recognized first as a value and then places came second..........that makes sense, but, didn't the Egyptians have a different way of counting with their symbols of flowers and bars and such? ( I have the symbols illustrated and how they were used, but, really don't remember off hand)???????????

To get real farout - just tripping here ( not wiki, just odd brain functions)

123 is a trinity in ways- also can relate to a triangle or hex as in 1+2+3=6

12x3=36 a key number in the value of hex again as in 6x6=36 and 360 degree base for measurement and use of arc, degrees minutes and seconds - so maybe symbolic of measuring time /latitude/longitude????

Astronomical as in center of our solar system expanding out as in Anthropocosmic man and realization of Genesis:

Sun Venus Earth
1 2 3


UUUUUUUuuuhhhhhhhh , I suppose I could go on tripping, but, I really do not know about this 123 with Egyptians, but I think I like this best for defining 123-
123 is the natural number following 122 and preceding 124. (wiki)

I would like to ask you what inspired you to think of the Egyptians and their use of 123 or what it might have meant to them?????? Is it the confined values you found on the "fine constant structure"........?? And if so, how does that relate to the Egyptians? Or how does Mian–Chowla sequence relate or what is your reasoning that it is the 11th number in sequence? I mean, overall, why are you asking about `123 and the Egyptians - have you found something that may correlate between 123 and the AE?????

Just curious...

C



Dr. Colette M. Dowell, N.D.
Circular Times
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