Zod YinYang Wrote:
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> Hans_lune Wrote:
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> > C-14 is reliable as is stratigraphy, fluorine
> > dating, thermoluminescence,
>
> Ipso facto, the methods by which the dating of the
> GP has been established are not only reliable, but
> agree with each other.
They say its dates to a time 7,500 years before yours - which is based on what exactly?
>
> Clearly, I have a doubt about such a conclusion.
Why? your 'doubt' doesn't erase evidence - the C-14 dates are there any theory worthy of the name must account for them.
>
> Thus, somewhere along the line, if, as I contend,
> the GP was built before 10,000BC, the dating went
> awry.
How? What evidence are you using for your date?
>
> Maybe you should read my 3 warnings again?
Why? You posted here on a discussion board - if you didn't want discussion then you made a strategic mistake.
>
>
> > however what is most
> > interesting is that - in your theory - everyone
> > dies - but then remarkably the exactly same
> > cultures continues unabated - how does that
> work
> > exactly?
>
> Not 'everyone dies' [qua extinction vs mortality]
> - or we wouldn't be here.
The problem is you cannot show anything happened that killed x people or anything else.
>
> I never claimed that 'exactly the same cultures
> continue unabated'.
No they went on by themselves completely ignoring your supposedly world wide disaster.
>
> For example, it would be practically impossible
> for a Nile valley culture to resume after
> cataclysmic inundation (sea level rising 120-180m
> above normal). Conversely, it may be possible
> (given sufficient warning) for a people to
> evacuate/migrate to a nearby mountainous region,
> out of reach of a mega-tsunami, but their culture
> would no doubt be considerably affected, even if
> they could partially preserve some aspects such as
> language.
..or it never happened
>
>
> > Show evidence from these two cultures of
> > there total destruction and immediate
> > reconstruction with the exactly the same tools
> and
> > habitations?
>
> Perhaps you can point out where I said this
> happened?
No I said it happened based on the evidence - those cultures were not destroyed or even noticed this disaster happened-can you point to the destruction layer for those two cultures?
>
>
> > Please link to archaeological studies showing
> this
> > in the Nile valley for these two cultures.
>
> I doubt there are any.
Yep, because the evidence shows it never happened.
>
>
> > As a
> > matter of fact explain why there is no such
> > destruction level anywhere in the world
>
> I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this?
there is no evidence of such a grand flood over the entire world at that time.
>
> What is a 'destruction level'?
Where a big wave comes in and flattens a village scattering it and leaving a tsunami debris and leaving a vast amount of dead animals.
>
> Every stratum in sedimentary rock corresponds to a
> single cataclysm. Each discontinuity layer
> corresponds to a dozen millennia of vegetation
> and/or weathering. All strata throughout the world
> are contemporaneous, i.e. a sequence of strata in
> one continent can be matched with the same
> sequence on another continent.
Please show us evidence of this in Egypt for that time period then. See comment above
>
> Each stratum is the deposition of metres of
> rubble/diluvium by a corresponding global
> cataclysm (eventually highly compacted).
Oh where? Where is this level in Egypt? Geology report please.
>
> Again, we are here, QED not 'everyone died'.
Shouldn't they?
>
> Even so, it is an ELE. Consequently, the GP is
> there to warn us - just in case without such
> warning 'everyone dies' next time.
Sorry only you seem to believe this. Given the theory you have created I wouldn't take it as at all believable.
>
> Mostly it is to enable us to prepare, to ensure
> the preservation of mankind's technological
> advancement such that eventually, cyclic cataclysm
> can be withstood like a city withstands a seasonal
> tornado, and mankind can avoid being continually
> sent back to the stone age every dozen millennia.
They seemed to have failed completely but then again we see no evidence said disaster occurred....so what?
>
> Yes, the engineers of the GP contrived its design
> precisely to provide proof to us of cyclic
> cataclysm.
..and in this they utterly failed at.
>
>
> > Why not images of what they
> > suspect would happen?
>
> I expect they considered that proof was
> sufficient, that images could be left to the
> imagination.
Seems they failed at that too.
>
>
> > Why does the C-14 dating of
> > the pyramids not show the date you assign to
> it?
>
> That is one of those dangerous questions that
> begin to arise...
Because the evidence is against your ideas you need to ignore it?
>
>
> > What is Khafre's tomb for then? What about his
> > coffer?
>
> I've started the ball rolling with the Great
> Pyramid. There must be millions of perspicacious
> minds able to take my lead and apply themselves to
> solving the mysteries of other pyramids.
Ah leaving out evidence you cannot account for - very bad for the believably of a theory.