Khazar-khum Wrote:
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> You are going to amazing lengths in this thread to
> back up what is essentially Afrocentrism.
No. I just refuted what was a nonsensical statement that you made.
Of course, since it goes against your views on the matter, you want
to call it Afrocentric, when in reality it is just pointing out
how distorted your views of reality and geography are. Anyone
who would say that Egypt is not in Africa because of the Mediterranean
or that Africa is a reference to geography while the Mediterranean
isn't, obviously has no sane grip on reality.
>
> You're using geography as a club, are refusing to
> aknowledge your own biases, and on top of
> everything else, are putting words in people's
> mouths.
NO. You just opened yourself up to being exposed as not having any
sane grip on reality because of your own absurd ideas.
>
> The AE are far more influential in the
> Mediterranean cultures than in those of Southern
> Africa. That claim you dismiss because I used
> geographical markers. I suspect if I used time
> markers, as Roxana did, you'd dismiss them from
> me, too.
It is still a nonsense idea to say that because Egyptian culture
influenced, lets be clear here, European culture in the Mediterranean,
that somehow it is less African. That is a statement of someone who
would rather deny the obvious than admit to the facts that Africans
have influenced the development of civilization by creating a false
sense of reality. In any study of geography you would fail
by trying to claim that Egypt is not in Africa because part of
it is along the Mediterranean. And anyone who teaches such nonsense
should be ridiculed as an idiot.
>
> The fact, uncomfortable as it may be, is that
> there are people who believe that the modern
> American of African Descent is identical to the
> AE. And the reasoning seems to be that since Egypt
> is in Africa, therefore they are all Egyptians.
No. There are people who believe that the AE were Africans and
therefore had features and patterns of cultures similar to other
Africans because of their African background. Likewise, there are people
who believe that the ancient Egyptians were closer to Europeans and
Asians from thousands of miles away from Egypt than the dark brown
people of Upper Egypt, from places like Aswan, Luxor and elsewhere.
This denial of reality makes it easy for them not to acknowledge
that there are indeed people in Egypt who are full blooded Egyptians
and do look like many African Americans. This is not strange, as European
Americans look like Europeans from the continent because of the fact that
they share European ancestry. It is totally insane to suggest that Egypt
is some island separate from Africa populated by populations alien to Africa.
> Now, why they dismiss the fabulously rich &
> varied cultures present in the rest of Africa is a
> mystery. But they do.
Egypt is part of the fabulously rich and varied cultures of Africa. That is
certainly true. What is being dismissed is the idea of ancient Egypt not being
part of that rich and varied culture, which is nonsense.
>
> And the program which restyled Nefertiti as Tyra
> Banks panders to this belief system.
So what? There are images from Egypt that portray Nefertiti with features similar
to black Africans. Therefore, it is not strange that a black African, whether
in America, Europe or Africa would have features similar to some of those representations.
Just as it isn't strange that some people in Egypt have features similar to other
black Africans, which would be also similar to many African Americans.
