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May 5, 2024, 1:35 am UTC    
July 10, 2007 08:08AM
Clive Wrote:
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> Byrd:
>
> Thought you may be interested in knowing...
> The pyramids were built before 1967 AD...without
> the use of isotopes...!
>
> Also...the length of day varies "every" day of the
> year...!

I'm not sure what this has to do with my reply to your original post. You stated:
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>> A fact for the mathematical minds to ponder over…please try to disprove.
>> Did you know…
>> 1) The roof to the entrance of G3 at Giza is 34.23 Rc above its base (course #19)...
>> 2) The rate of acceleration of a falling body is 18.76 Rc/sec^2 = aLog (4/pi)...
>> 3) It requires 6/pi seconds for an object to fall a distance of 34.23 Rc...
>> 4) The volume of a cube compared to a sphere of equal width is 6/pi…!

>> My question is…who invented the second of time?
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I was answering the question of who produced a device that measured seconds... and it's in the Wikipedia article. Before then, records indicate that "seconds" were actually "heartbeats." That's not a terribly accurate measurement, since everyone's varies but it might give some approximation. And, of course, depending on when you measure that heartbeat you would get a different number. So sometimes you could measure a falling object and it would be five heartbeats before it hit the ground or six or seven or four or any other number.

In the case of 6/pi, I doubt they could accurately measure something that fell during a time period that might last only one and a fraction heartbeats.

...unless you have some evidence of Egyptian chronometers that I'm not familar with? The ones I know of are water clocks and candles and daylight and solar markers like sundials...and heartbeats. I admit my knowledge isn't all encompassing. I'd like to see links to a more detailed time measuring device if such exists.


>
> But here is the complicated part:
> The rate of acceleration is variable depending on
> the degrees latitude where measures are taken.
> Since you appear to be capable of math tabulations
> to ten decimal places (it must require a
> tremendous amount of time to calculate and paper
> to write on), you have the time and are using the
> Internet, I will ask you to confirm/reject the
> rate of acceleration in Rc that I posted. Hint:
> use 30 degrees north...you will find that it
> matters very little about the minor difference of
> Giza's true location [29.9+ degrees].
> Once achieved, then find the "logarithm" of your
> answer and multiply it by "pi" (use your ten
> decimal place pencil and paper system).
> Bet your result is the number four.
> Would you like to know how it was achieved?

No, thanks. I could come up with the same measure using all sorts of interesting mathematics (calculus, for instance... vector analysis...) that the Egyptians didn't have.

But your original question asked:
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>> A fact for the mathematical minds to ponder over…please try to disprove.
>> Did you know…
>> 1) The roof to the entrance of G3 at Giza is 34.23 Rc above its base (course #19)...
>> 2) The rate of acceleration of a falling body is 18.76 Rc/sec^2 = aLog (4/pi)...
>> 3) It requires 6/pi seconds for an object to fall a distance of 34.23 Rc...
>> 4) The volume of a cube compared to a sphere of equal width is 6/pi…!
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Yes... not in the same measurements, but we all know that gravity works and I'm pretty sure that folks here know about the variations in speed depending on whether the measurement is taken at sea level or higher and depending on slight gravitational anomalies in the region.

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>> My question is…who invented the second of time?
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Again, to answer your question, it may have been the Germans who invented a standardized second in 1560 or thereabouts, but the first fairly accurate one was done after 1657 and Christain Hugyens is credited with the invention:
[en.wikipedia.org]

Gallileo, by the way, timed the fall (roll down an incline, actually) of objects by starting and stopping a stream of water and weighing the water (the following site includes a translation of Gallileo's description of his experiment and how he timed it.)
[galileoandeinstein.physics.virginia.edu]

So, to answer your question (still) it appears the second wasn't measured and standardized until 1657. If they'd been doing it earlier, the Greeks would have picked it up from the Egyptians.


(I do admit my brain was off on a distracted note with the stellar measurements. My bad!)

Subject Author Posted

splitting the second of time

Clive June 27, 2007 09:38PM

Re: splitting the second of time

Don Barone June 27, 2007 09:56PM

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Ronald June 28, 2007 01:59AM

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Clive June 28, 2007 03:47AM

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Byrd June 28, 2007 08:46AM

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Clive June 28, 2007 09:57AM

False accusation

Anthony June 28, 2007 12:39PM

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lobo-hotei June 28, 2007 02:22PM

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Clive June 28, 2007 02:37PM

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lobo-hotei June 28, 2007 02:52PM

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Clive June 29, 2007 09:57AM

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lobo-hotei June 29, 2007 02:33PM

Re: splitting the second of time

Byrd July 10, 2007 08:08AM

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Clive July 16, 2007 09:22PM

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Clive June 28, 2007 02:01PM

Mod Note

lobo-hotei June 28, 2007 02:20PM



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