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May 12, 2024, 10:34 pm UTC    
June 21, 2007 12:41PM
creigs1707 Wrote:
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> Hermione: Do you have any evidence that the AE
> regarded deities as "people of superior intellect"
> ... or "people of superior intellect" as gods,
> even ... ??
>
> SC: I do not think it is a great stretch of the
> imagination to associate "heaven" with "god" and
> "god" to an advanced race or 'lost civilisation'.

Do you have any evidence that the AE considered their pantheon to be members of an advanced race, or the survivors of a lost civilisation?

> Hermione: The architects of Djoser's time were
> working in the mid-3rd millennium. They could not
> have witnessed the mythical First Time:
>
> SC: Of course not - but they could have witnessed
> a plan.

I think that it's already been pointed out that this is a circular argument ...

> Hermione: But, since the First Time was an
> important concept belonging to the worlds of
> imagination and myth, the architects, artists and
> designers of Djoser's era proceeded to interpret
> their vision of it;
>
> SC: Sometimes we discover that myth is rooted in
> fact. What unequivocal proof do you have that
> this is not the case with what you have presented
> above?

At a time the Egyptians called Zep Tepi (the First Time), Atum created two offspring. His son, Shu, represented dry air, and his daughter, Tefnut, represented corrosive moist air. The twins symbolize two universal principles of human existence: life and right (justice).

The twins separated the sky from the waters. They produced children named Geb, the dry land, and Nut, the sky. When the primeval waters receded, a mound of earth (Geb) appeared, providing the first solid dry land for the sun god, Re, to rest.


Well, that doesn't sound to me like a factual account of what happened in the region that we now know as Egypt during remote antiquity. Indeed, it has every appearance of being a symbolic account - I'm sure that comparisons with other origin myths (e.g., the cycle of traditions that we find recorded in "Genesis") have frequently been made. For unequivocal proof of what really took place in Egypt in remote antiquity, I would refer you to existing archaeological evidence. (I'm sure that other posters could supply you with plenty of sources to consult on this point).

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Large-scale pan-generational pyramid planning.

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Re: Large-scale pan-generational pyramid planning.

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Re: Large-scale pan-generational pyramid planning.

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