wirelessguru1 Wrote:
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> > Of course the real giants like him are
> vaguely discernable to us now in terms where we
> > start to realise that if they hadn't existed
> we may still now be dealing with the same
> > problem they where working on.
>
> Of course since the first thing that you will try
> to do is to discredit them!

La contraire de la sequitur


> For some silly reason
> you still think that the best road to knowledge is
> by reading it somewhere!!!

There are different types of 'knowledge' in the broadest sense. There is empirical knowledge that is derived through the scientific process. There is philosophical knowledge that is derived through reason. There is spiritual knowledge that is derived through knowledge of self. There is religious knowledge that is derived through understanding of revelation. And there is divine knowledge that comes from the holy spirit.

There is another type of knowledge, one which considers itself dilligent but rejects the scientific process without wanting to understand it, one which develops its own personal philosophy that has not grappled with reason or any of the thoughts of the great philosophers, one where self is seen as 'me' rather than the 'I' inside 'me'. One which espouses revelation but doesn't search dilligently for its source.

You have ended in this last camp. There are plenty of things you can read that will help you avoid the main pitfalls you have fallen into. If you where only a simple person it would be so much more simple. All of us fall into pits at some stage in our lives - its just that you represent the person who has fallen into all the pits at the same time. I call it 'new age' even though there are some people labelled as such that have fallen into less pits than I have!

There is this new age idea that if you allow yourself to float anywhere and trust in your own innate wisdom, you will be more likely to know yourself and know spiritual truth. Thats absolute bunkam. The Budhists know about knowing yourself, and they have tried and tested ways that take decades to achieve - if at all. The idea that you can just know yourself by trusting in yourself is perhaps the most blind concept of our age.


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> Giants like Da Vinci express themselves via art,
> science and other creations...


Yes Da Vinci was a giant. How can you espouse him though ? He was interested in the reality of things. He took the evidence around him, his used his whole mind as best he could, and he reached as far as he could. He didn't take things that where either centuries or decades outdated, or false understandings of basic things based on political pressure groups in his country, to come up with even more nonsense versions of them. He read books and studied things around him and leapt in front of people around him. He ticked the boxes on the first five types of knowledge I talked of - but had no element of the sixth whatsoever. The most simple people never have that element of the sixth type of knowledge. They do not compare themselves with themselves.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2005 07:50PM by Simon.