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May 4, 2024, 12:13 pm UTC    
August 09, 2005 04:05PM
No I'm afraid you've still got it wrong! Flying Spaghetti Monsterism is not an evolution based subject, but an intelligent design subject.

Maybe its just making you uncomfortable!

Can I ask you a serious question though! If you put so much down to 'God did it', how do you know where really science stops and the 'God' effect begins? Doesn't it worry you that maybe scientists are going to miss loads of breakthroughs because they see gaps in the current understanding and said 'ahhh thats where God worked his magic' instead of 'Now why does this gap in our understanding occur?' and exploring it.

Also would it be such a wrench to say the bible is wrong? Its allegory! As long as the moral behind it is good it doesn't mean the story itself it true.

I constantly try and see things from your point of view. That doesn't mean I agree with it, just that I can see where you are coming from. Now you try that with me! See that science, evolution, big bang theory etc don't stand in the way of God. They compliment Him. Personally I would have less respect for a god who made the universe and moulded and modelled and took a hand in everything, than a God who set the laws of physics down and sat back KNOWING how things would turn out with having to take other action like switching the odd gene in a creatures make-up. Now THATS omnipotence and omniscience.

I don't understand why such Christian fundamentalists, as you appear to be, feel so threatened that they have to cast down science and try and force it to fit their beliefs. Now you definitely AREN'T going to agree with my next statement, and maybe you're even going to cast me into flames for it, but I really don't care. As a Freemason, in the second degree, we are told to explore the hidden mysteries of science and nature, leading up to the thrown of God. Why is it a problem to explore the universe without assuming God did everything directly? Science, particularly evolution, has taught us so much about the world and ecology we live in. Without the theory of evolution we'd have less medicines, more disease and many more problems. Why? Why is this a problem?

No doubt you'll site some small area where evolution hasn't produced the answer. But just because we haven't found the answer yet doesn't mean we should stop looking. We have overwhelming evidence of the evolution of countless species, and I hear so often 'oh well this one example prooves its all wrong'. Maybe stopping at that level it might, but isn't it better to say. 'Well we have three thousand examples which show this is the way things happen, what has made this one different' without just blaming God (the poor being gets blamed for enough why pile more at its door).

The error you make is that evolution isn't the end answer. Its the toolkit and the framework to find the answer.

But don't worry! I don't expect a real answer from you!

Is that straw I can smell burning?
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Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

Dave L August 08, 2005 06:28AM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

darkuser August 08, 2005 10:31AM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

Paul H. August 08, 2005 11:06AM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

wirelessguru1 August 08, 2005 01:29PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

Katherine Reece August 08, 2005 01:54PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

wirelessguru1 August 08, 2005 07:07PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

bernard August 08, 2005 04:05PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

wirelessguru1 August 08, 2005 07:11PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

Dave L August 09, 2005 05:05AM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 12:54PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

Paul H. August 08, 2005 04:13PM

Re: Biblical literalists still trying to rewrite evolution:

wirelessguru1 August 08, 2005 07:22PM

Advertising and Science are Different :-) :-)

Paul H. August 08, 2005 09:33PM

Re: Advertising and Science are Different :-) :-)

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 12:09AM

Re: Advertising and Science are Different :-) :-)

bernard August 09, 2005 01:09AM

Re: Advertising and Science are Different :-) :-)

Dave L August 09, 2005 05:09AM

Re: Advertising and Science are Different :-) :-)

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 12:42PM

Re: Advertising and Science are Different :-) :-)

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 12:39PM

Touched By His Noodly Appendage

MikeS August 09, 2005 02:18AM

Re: Touched By His Noodly Appendage

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 12:50PM

Re: Touched By His Noodly Appendage

MikeS August 09, 2005 04:05PM

Re: Touched By His Noodly Appendage

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 10:22PM

whatever

MikeS August 10, 2005 01:35AM

Re: Touched By His Noodly Appendage

Jon K August 25, 2005 09:52PM

shock horror!

MikeS August 09, 2005 06:40AM

Re: shock horror!

Dave L August 09, 2005 08:44AM

Re: shock horror!

MikeS August 09, 2005 08:51AM

Re: shock horror!

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 01:06PM

Re: shock horror!

Stephanie August 09, 2005 01:11PM

Re: shock horror!

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 02:09PM

Re: shock horror!

Stephanie August 09, 2005 03:12PM

Re: shock horror!

Robman75 August 10, 2005 05:16AM

Re: shock horror!

MikeS August 10, 2005 05:53AM

Re: shock horror!

wirelessguru1 August 10, 2005 05:13PM

Re: shock horror!

MikeS August 09, 2005 03:39PM

Re: shock horror!

wirelessguru1 August 09, 2005 09:51PM

Re: shock horror!

MikeS August 10, 2005 03:00AM

Re: shock horror!

wirelessguru1 August 10, 2005 04:58PM

actually why wait 3-5 years

MikeS August 11, 2005 07:30AM

Re: actually why wait 3-5 years

wirelessguru1 August 11, 2005 01:23PM

Re: actually why wait 3-5 years

MikeS August 18, 2005 04:30AM



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