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May 8, 2024, 10:45 am UTC    
May 31, 2005 08:05PM
DaveL,

Thank you for answering my question.

You write, "The impression you are under is due to certain religious groups who are attempting to undermine the very foundations of science."

No it isn't. It it true, and dismayingly so, that I.D. has been high-jacked, so to speak, by Christian Fundamentalists, but these people certainly have no influence on my considering as plausible the non-religious view that the mechanics of Evolution involves to some degree an intelligent force.
I am an atheist of many years standing but for as long as I can remember I have felt that Evolution is not entirely mechanical. Okay, I grant you that this is not a valid scientific reason to question Darwinism, but just stop and think of how many scientific theories were born out of or changed by a person's gut-feeling, hunch, a vague sense that the explanation of the day wasn't quite right. Not, I hasten to add, that I'm implying I am the next Galileo, Newton, or Darwin in the making.

I have not made a study of evolution but I have over the years read a few books and articles on the subject; and I think I have learned enough to know that all is not as rosy in the world of Dawinism as its more fervent supporters would have us believe. My understanding is that there are flaws in Darwinism. Of course, this does not mean that Darwinism is entirely wrong, only that it is a theory that cannot - as yet - explain everything about how evolution works. So, as there are (okay, allegedly) flaws in Darwinism
I see nothing wrong in looking at other possible scientific and non-scientific (i.e. un-falsifiable) explanations. Naturally, as an atheist I instinctively exclude explanations of a Religious nature.

You continue, "This is very dangerous, as the foundations of science are the foundations of truth and reality."

One of the most unfortunate things about us humans is that almost everything we say and do is potentially dangerous. It was ever thus, I fear.
I do not share your vision of Science as "the foundations of truth and reality." True, it is extraordinarily useful and indeed life for many of us would be poorer without it. But, in this context, it is just another way of seeing the world around us. There can be as much wonder in imagining the sound of thunder being caused by the Gods moving their furniture about as there is in describing it in physical terms of colliding clouds, air pressure changes, and so on.

MJT
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