wirelessguru1 Wrote:
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> Look Dave, water by definition retains energy!

I don't know what kind of definition you are using. The Gulf Stream contains a lot of heat because 1) there is a lot of water there and 2) it has a high heat capacity of 1 degree C per gram (cc). Another reason why bodies of water moderate climate around them is the large heat of transition needed to convert 1 gram of water to 1 gram of vapor (540 Kcal).


> This is also why certain countries and islands
> around warm water streams are temperate! For
> example, the entire United Kingdom and Ireland
> would probably be frozen without the warm waters
> of the gulf stream...
>
> Also, it is becoming obvious now for most rational
> people that the ice is melting at the poles and
> also that temperatures and climates are changing
> rather rapidly around the world, but, at this
> early stage of evidence, to exclusively blame
> greenhouse gases as the main factor in these
> global Earth changes is what is naive at best!
>
> For example, it is very much possible that our
> solar system could be entering a much more
> energetic area/place in space as part of a large
> macro cycle!


I don't know of any evidence that the amount of solar energy received by the earth in the last 100 years has increased. It would be good if you posted some evidence
Bernard

As a matter of fact, many of the new
> electro-magnetic (EM) Universe theories do suggest
> exactly that and this is also the main theories
> that some of us, including me, are
> investigating...
>
> IMHO, the greenhouse gases theories treat Earth
> pretty much as a closed system and there is, of
> course, no evidence of that! So, it is very much
> possible that the computer models are still wrong
> in assuming that greenhouse gases are the main
> cause!
>
> It seems to me that just like evolution you seem
> to be very much eager to jump the gun on many of
> these issues!!!
>
> eom