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May 17, 2024, 3:25 pm UTC    
November 26, 2005 02:17PM
The giveaway is this sentence:

"No longer are models judged by how well they reproduce data from the real world-increasingly, models provide the data."

This is wrong. One of the first things you do when you make a model is to dial it back to a previous date and see if it accurately predicts what was observed thereafter.

We saw that the Hurricane centre for example successfully predicted the track of every hurricane this year - to within a few miles and sometimes weeks ahead. The models are not only increasing in complexity, they are increasing in reliability. The amount of computer power is increasing at a phenomenal rate - so the models now are miles better than a few years back...a few months even...

What they are producing is consistent results from entirely different models..that's why the alarm bells are ringing.

Dave L
Subject Author Posted

Lecture/talk by Michael Crichton re: politicizing of science

JimLewandowski November 26, 2005 12:31PM

Dinosaurs, evangelicals and the state

John Wall November 26, 2005 12:54PM

No need to rub salt in the wound - LOL

JimLewandowski November 26, 2005 04:11PM

Re: No need to rub salt in the wound - LOL

John Wall November 26, 2005 04:24PM

Re: No need to rub salt in the wound - LOL

Dave L November 26, 2005 04:42PM

Re: No need to rub salt in the wound - LOL

John Wall November 26, 2005 05:24PM

Re: Lecture/talk by Michael Crichton re: politicizing of science

Dave L November 26, 2005 01:05PM

Re: Lecture/talk by Michael Crichton re: politicizing of science

JimLewandowski November 26, 2005 01:40PM

Re: Lecture/talk by Michael Crichton re: politicizing of science

Dave L November 26, 2005 02:17PM

I'm sorry, I meant the rest of the speech

JimLewandowski November 26, 2005 02:52PM

Re: I'm sorry, I meant the rest of the speech

Dave L November 26, 2005 03:12PM

Re: Lecture/talk by Michael Crichton re: politicizing of science

Anthony November 27, 2005 04:46AM

17,000 scientists?

Doug Weller November 27, 2005 05:52AM

Just remember..

Sue November 27, 2005 11:50AM

Re: Just remember..

Tommi Huhtamaki November 27, 2005 03:28PM

Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 03:48PM

Re: Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

Joanne November 27, 2005 04:03PM

Re: Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 04:25PM

Re: Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

Sue November 27, 2005 08:54PM

Re: Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

JimLewandowski November 27, 2005 09:25PM

Re: Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

Dave L November 28, 2005 07:28AM

Re: Graham Hancock's work vs. Dan Brown

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 11:29AM

suggestion

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 11:42AM

Re: suggestion

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 11:58AM

Re: suggestion

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 12:04PM

Whoa...........

Katherine Reece November 28, 2005 12:07PM

Re: Whoa...........

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 12:11PM

Re: Whoa...........

Stephanie November 28, 2005 12:15PM

Re: suggestion

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 12:10PM

Re: suggestion

Warwick L Nixon November 28, 2005 12:13PM

Re: suggestion

JimLewandowski November 28, 2005 12:47PM

Moderator Note

Stephanie November 28, 2005 12:14PM



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