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R. Avry Wilson

October 09, 2001 10:10PM

<HTML>Allright then.

Try this.

Let's say there are no shafts in any of the three. Let's imagine there never were any. Now. Looking at the sides of the pyramids, which four directions are each set perpendicular to?

North, South, East, and West. If you disagree at this point, you are seriously out to lunch. Next...

We have the layout of the three pyramids of Giza, and their configuration most certainly does resemble the same pattern as Orion's Belt. Upsidedown, sideways, whatever - the 3 of one and three of the other are in the same pattern. If you disagree with this point, then we know your only purpose is to cause trouble and not be honest about very simple, obvious concepts. I'm sorry if that's 'insulting', but there's really nothing to this. Next...

We have the scenario I proposed above: Face South. Draw the Belt. Lay it down. Giza. When done, the pattern on the ground now mimics perfectly the pattern in the sky by orientation. Plus... the Nile is to your left (since you're facing South) and the Milky Way is to the left of Orion. If you don't understand this, get off your haunch and go do it. It's really easy to test. Go outside. Do you know what Orion looks like and where it is? Good! (If not, don't worry, just ask around... someone knows - it's just that famous of a grouping...). Now, when it reaches, say, the halfway point of it's traverse, draw what you see. Easy, hunh? Now, when you've done, lay it down. What do you see? Well well well. Go figure - Giza.

Now, does anyone disagree that the Nile is not to the left of Giza when facing South? Does anyone disagree that the Milky Way is to the left of Orion in the Southern sky? Does anyone disagree that if you face south, draw Orion, and lay it down in front of you it is the same pattern? Take your time before deciding. I dunno. It looks really really simple to me. (In fact I've shown it to children, and they get it.)

When alll this is done, stop for a second. Was any of this done with shafts? NO, dammit. *lol*

After they'd decided what it was all going to look like in the layout sense, THEN they added in some shafts to the design in order to 'point' to there favorite stars or parts of the sky. Now, people, even Krupp knows that the NORTHERN shaft points at the NORTH star. And every Egyptologist KNOWS that the AE's had some freaky-deaky deified love affair with the stars in the north polar region. "The Imperishable Ones" they called them. Anyone know why? Because they don't set. Yup. It doesn't matter what UP or DOWN is - all they knew was that 'in that direction there are stars that don't set'. So they pointed something at the most important one - the one in the middle of them all. And the South shaft? Well, it happens to point at the CORRESPONDING star (Al Nitak) of the GP in the Belt stars as they cross the meridian. The date which it points to is where all the huff is about!

But so what? The date means nothing (it isn't necessary to create a layout of three pyramids the same way a group of three stars is in the sky). Neither do the shafts, really. So, if there are no shafts, I could say the exact same thing to Krupp:

Face south. Draw the Belt. Lay it down. Giza.

And guess what? Now how does he put it up-side-down? (His argument doesn't work WITH the shafts, and now he's supposed to make a case with them?)

I wonder...

How does this man's brain work?

Chris Hale: I'd love to do give you an hour of my time to do a show with the entire hour dedicated to presenting this. With visuals, I can make it even simpler. We'll talk. (sip)

R. Avry Wilson

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Mr Brass: You think Orion is in the North, huhn? Way to kick my ass on that one. *lol*</HTML>

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Subject	Author	Posted
Invitation for Correction	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 09:25AM
My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 10:08AM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Chris Hale	October 09, 2001 12:22PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 12:42PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 01:12PM
Hey, Chris	Anthony	October 09, 2001 01:19PM
Excellent Post	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 01:36PM
Magnetic North	Anthony	October 09, 2001 02:01PM
Re: Magnetic North	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 02:21PM
Re: Magnetic North	Anthony	October 09, 2001 02:25PM
THE REAL POINT PLEASE?	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 06:11AM
Re: THE REAL POINT PLEASE?	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 07:45AM
Re: Hey, Chris	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 02:22AM
Thanks Chris.	Derek Barnett	October 09, 2001 03:14PM
Derek???	Anthony	October 09, 2001 03:20PM
Anthony???	Derek Barnett	October 09, 2001 03:30PM
Re: Anthony???	Anonymous User	October 09, 2001 03:38PM
Re: Anthony???	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 07:19PM
Re: Anthony???	Anthony	October 09, 2001 07:23PM
Re: Anthony???	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 07:24AM
Re: Anthony???	John	October 09, 2001 03:53PM
Re: Anthony???	Stephen Tonkin	October 09, 2001 11:14PM
Re: Anthony???	lone	October 10, 2001 04:27AM
Re: Anthony???	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 07:50AM
Re: Anthony???	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 07:56AM
Re: Anthony???	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:13AM
Re: Anthony???	Anthony	October 10, 2001 08:15AM
Re: Anthony???	Claire	October 10, 2001 08:31AM
Re: Anthony???	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:33AM
Hey Duncan!	Claire	October 10, 2001 08:40AM
Re: Hey Claire!	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:47AM
Re: Anthony???	lone	October 10, 2001 12:45PM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Claire	October 09, 2001 04:14PM
Cardinal Point Alignment	Anthony	October 09, 2001 05:22PM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Mikey Brass	October 09, 2001 05:37PM
Mikey	Anthony	October 09, 2001 06:36PM
Re: Hieroglyph for North	Greg Reeder	October 09, 2001 07:59PM
Re: Hieroglyph for North	Anthony	October 09, 2001 08:41PM
Re: Hieroglyph for North	Greg Reeder	October 09, 2001 10:20PM
Re: Hieroglyph for North	Anthony	October 10, 2001 06:22AM
Re: Hieroglyph for North	Claire	October 10, 2001 09:02AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 02:28AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Claire	October 10, 2001 04:38AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 04:49AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Anthony	October 10, 2001 06:31AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 07:52AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 08:04AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:20AM
Alignment	Anthony	October 10, 2001 08:23AM
Re: Thanks Chris.	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 08:01AM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Don Holeman	October 09, 2001 06:49PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 12:17AM
Deeply rooted prejudice	Anthony	October 10, 2001 07:00AM
Re: Deeply rooted prejudice	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:06AM
Re: Deeply rooted prejudice	Anthony	October 10, 2001 08:12AM
Re: Deeply rooted prejudice	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 01:39PM
Re: Deeply rooted prejudice	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 01:23PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 08:11AM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:28AM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 12:52PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Mikey Brass	October 09, 2001 05:32PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 07:26PM
Repeating and getting it	lone	October 09, 2001 08:43PM
Re: Repeating and getting it	Anthony	October 09, 2001 09:00PM
Re: My Reasons for Not Accepting Krupp's Argument	Greg Reeder	October 09, 2001 08:08PM
Invitation accepted.	Anthony	October 09, 2001 11:57AM
Re: Invitation accepted.	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 12:42PM
To Mr Hale	R. Avry Wilson	October 09, 2001 01:12PM
Re: To Mr Hale	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 01:25PM
Re: To Mr Hale	Robert G. Bauval	October 09, 2001 05:49PM
Coming Out Party	Anthony	October 09, 2001 07:14PM
Well Said!	ISHMAEL	October 09, 2001 07:29PM
Re: Well Said!	Anthony	October 09, 2001 07:54PM
Re: To Mr Hale	Stephen Tonkin	October 09, 2001 11:45PM
Re: To Mr Hale (slight addition -- or is it the correcting of a slight [g])	Stephen Tonkin	October 09, 2001 11:56PM
Re: To Mr Hale	Robert G. Bauval	October 10, 2001 01:44AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 02:30AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Robert G. Bauval	October 10, 2001 06:16AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 06:32AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 05:29PM
Re: To Mr Hale	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 08:18AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 08:46AM
Re: To Mr Hale	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 10:44AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 12:51PM
Re: To Mr Hale	Derek Barnett	October 10, 2001 01:06PM
Re: To Mr Hale	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 02:07AM
He's back!	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 04:53AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 06:34AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 02:24AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Robert G. Bauval	October 10, 2001 06:18AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Anonymous User	October 10, 2001 07:13AM
Re: To Mr Hale	Stephen Tonkin	October 10, 2001 01:12PM
For those who still don't get it	R. Avry Wilson	October 09, 2001 10:10PM
Re: For those who still don't get it	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 06:19AM
Throwing out evidence	Anthony	October 10, 2001 06:48AM
Re: Throwing out evidence	Chris Hale	October 10, 2001 10:43AM
Re: Throwing out evidence	ISHMAEL	October 10, 2001 10:47AM
Re: Throwing out evidence	Mikey Brass	October 10, 2001 03:30PM
typo n/t	R. Avry Wilson	October 09, 2001 10:15PM
Re: typo n/t	al-Urman	October 10, 2001 12:25PM
Chris Hale, and everyone, listen	R. Avry Wilson	October 11, 2001 12:16AM
I told you so. n/t	Don Holeman	October 11, 2001 12:25AM
Re: Chris Hale, and everyone, listen	Chris Hale	October 11, 2001 03:06AM

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