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May 15, 2024, 5:36 am UTC    
February 13, 2022 09:03PM
Amazing explanation. Congrats.
I have not so much arguments as you to say what I am going to say but I think the pyramids were treated as a mortuary structure by the Egyptians who I believed did not built the pyramids.
I believe there were restorations and newer material was put above very ancient structures. That’s why it is complicated to date exactly the pyramids. I don’t have an orthodox believe. I understood you do have a part of an orthodox view.
I don’t think any of the pyramids in the world was built in recent times. I believe they are much older. But than came the curiosity: why there are so many pyramids in the world and more and more are found these days?
All the world built pyramids to mortuary or rituals. Why pyramids? They have different shapes but they are all pyramids. I enter in the Chichen Itza pyramid twice. The first time I not even enter at the top as I enter imune a small passage at the el Castillo base, go up a very tiny and damp stairs with almost no air and we encounter a jade trone. The way down was worst. Almost with no air and space I went down to several very little steps. I believe the Mayans were not to high. Well, if was there a trone inside and the top of the elCastillo had nothing, not a single engraving how we can be sure Mayan built them. I believe nômade hunter gatherers found this amazing sites and decided to live in these places. They stayed and evolved to an agricultural society and stayed in that place, near these structures. I do believe the History was the same all over the world. I now it is a pretty radical believe but it is my theory

Cintia Panizza
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Pistol Wrote:
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> Hi Hermoine,
>
> I do not ascribe to the idea that older
> civilizations built pyramids in Egypt. However, it
> should be considered that, as you mention,
> mortuary enclosures built for the rulers afterlife
> cult were present in Egypt from the earliest of
> times. It's unclear on many levels whether the
> mortuary complexes found in upper Egypt were also
> present in lower Egypt, here we can say the
> unification of lower and upper Egypt brought
> together two different views of creation and
> afterlife. It took until the reign of Djoser (with
> the help of a Heliopoltian) to formulate a unified
> Mortuary complex incorporating the traditions and
> cult activity of upper and lower Egypt. In this
> process pyramids for the first time became an
> element of the royal mortuary complex design,
> though unproven the circumstantial evidence
> supports that pyramids are a direct evolution of
> the benben solar icon worshiped in Heliopolis.
>
> The progression of stone materials used in the
> royal sphere of temples dates to the 1st dynasty,
> the use of names associated with the solar cult
> also begin towards the end of the 1st dynasty, and
> then this also is the time that warrior king names
> are replaced with unifying names praising the
> kings relation as unifier and God. The first Solar
> cult royal name arrives with Reneb (or Nebre) at
> the start of the 2nd dynasty.
>
> Returning to the Great Pyramid, we cannot assume
> entirely it was always intended to be a pyramid,
> nor that Khufu was the first to build there. The
> site has many indications of early use during the
> predynastic period. If we examine the terrain we
> find the pyramid was built atop either a hillock
> or perhaps a butte similar to the many existing in
> the western desert. If we imagine, as that is all
> we are able to do, this elevated portion of the
> plateau had early importance to the afterlife
> cults, it makes sense that it may have held
> historical value and perhaps more importantly
> could very well have been the site of an early
> mortuary temple. If I had to choose that temples
> location at Giza it would be the 'Queen's
> Chamber', for here we find many adaptation results
> in the chambers stone composition and as well the
> same with the passage leading to the chamber.
> Moreover, the recently re-discovered Dixon relic
> (cedar from shaft) substantiates, in part, a much
> earlier date for the chamber. For example; the
> stone composition of the east and west walls of
> the chamber mirror each other with the exception
> of the Niche, though it is the Niche that
> determines the height of each course on all four
> walls, oddly the Niche is not centered on the east
> wall, additionally the top of the 6th course on
> both east and west walls was lowered 5-6 inches
> for some unknown reason. I suspect those two walls
> belong to a much earlier construct - a very early
> royal mortuary complex. In this line of thought it
> was not originally a burial site of a ruler but
> the cult center of the rulers afterlife much in
> the way the kings of upper Egypt built there own
> mortuary cult enclosures. Moreover, we have the
> archaeology discovery of G. Reisner in the north
> wadi which clearly indicating 3 different epochs
> of burial at Giza.
>
> Again, pure speculation, if this were the case we
> must consider the influence early Heliopolis had
> at the site, and what impact that would have for
> future kings wanting to build there. As I have
> stated here many times I believe there were three
> different constructions built on the site... the
> last iteration by Khufu. I don't believe his body
> was interned in the pyramid, but that the pyramid
> contained sacrificial elements and bore
> representational sarcophagus of afterlife gods,
> nowhere in Egypt are Royals buried above the
> ground, the tomb is always below ground.
>
> If we weigh the efforts of Sneferu, adopting
> pre-existing structures to build over them a
> smooth sided pyramid we begin to understand it's
> not entirely out of the question the same was done
> at Giza, specifically to the Great Pyramid (but I
> believe all three pyramids). Khufu's pyramid is so
> large because it has been built to incorporate a
> pre-existing structure that itself was built over
> an even earlier structure. This is why you have
> two sets of shafts in the building, why the apices
> of the QC align with the Great Step and the
> east-west centerline axis of the pyramid... and
> why the entrance (north side) of the pyramid is
> not centered on Khufu's pyramid.
>
> All of these thoughts are more reasonable than the
> Orthodox view, which is the reason so many are
> unable to solve how the Egyptians managed to build
> something of such magnitude in 20 years, because
> it cant be done that's why. But, if it were the
> result of a common human endeavor, to incorporate
> a sacred older site, then we can see that half the
> volume of stone used was already in place, Khufu
> adapted, incorporated an older structure because
> of the historical content and value of the
> location. We see the same thing occurred at
> Saqqara, not only with the step pyramid and how it
> was enlarged but also that the 2nd dynasty tombs
> were built over and incorporated into the mortuary
> complex as well.
>
> B.A.Hokom

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