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May 9, 2024, 6:15 pm UTC    
March 14, 2018 08:53AM
Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> Oh but he was Cerutti, Calico, and my own
> Paleolithic axes show that he was. The new ad hoc
> rules say that three is the magic number, so there
> you have it.

I see 3 examples that don't have a formal site report, the back-bone of modern archaeology. Archaeologists demand site reports... like Waters, Erlandson, and Jenkins, (not to mention Kat and Lee who understand why site reports are needed by the experts to judge the credibility of a site).

[www.hallofmaat.com]
"I know you have made light of Lee's comments concerning site reports, you might not want to do that anymore because it's just showing how little you know of how archaeology operates."

“No specialist report can reasonably consist of its conclusions alone, so the metrical and statistical diagrams and the tables must be made available.” D. A. Roe

Mammoth Trumpet 2011 Vol 26 (1) page 11:
Waters: "But before we can pass final judgment on the site, we need a good site report Jenkins agrees...."

and page 6:
Waters "well-dated strata are only the beginning....."

[www.buzzfeed.com]
and

[westerndigs.org]

"But a slew of independent fossil experts contacted by BuzzFeed News think the report, published on Wednesday in the journal Nature, is crazy."

If anyone thinks Nature has published a formal site report on Cerutti, think again.

"I have read that paper and I was astonished by it," archaeologist Donald Grayson of the University of Washington told BuzzFeed News. “I was astonished not because it is so good, but because it is so bad.”

"Also troubling, the “hammer” and “anvil” stones described in the paper don’t unequivocally look like tools, said Michael Waters of Texas A&M’s Center for the Study of the First Americans."

"The study also runs afoul of the mounting genetic evidence, Waters added, “which indicates that the first people to reach the Americas and eventually give rise to modern Native Americans arrived no earlier than 25,000 years ago.”

"Dr. Torben Rick, director and curator of North American archaeology at the Smithsonian Institution, also expressed his doubts."

“Broken bones and stones alone do not make a credible archaeological site, in my view, especially without a detailed description of their broader geological context,” Erlandson said."

“This discovery is rewriting our understanding of when humans reached the New World,” said Judy Gradwohl, president and CEO of the San Diego Natural History Museum, in a statement to the press."
Key word quoted above from BuzzFeed News: "crazy"

To sum this up Kat says: "you might not want to do that anymore because it's just showing how little you know of how archaeology operates."









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Doug Weller March 09, 2018 01:48PM

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Khazar-khum March 12, 2018 05:08PM

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Lee Olsen March 12, 2018 08:54PM

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Lee Olsen March 12, 2018 10:36PM

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Rick Baudé March 12, 2018 10:42PM

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Lee Olsen March 12, 2018 11:43PM

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Khazar-khum March 13, 2018 04:04PM

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Khazar-khum March 14, 2018 02:11PM

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Lee Olsen March 14, 2018 08:09PM

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Khazar-khum March 15, 2018 05:32PM

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Lee Olsen March 15, 2018 07:56PM

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Rick Baudé March 16, 2018 08:11PM

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Lee Olsen March 16, 2018 08:59PM

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Lee Olsen March 21, 2018 11:24AM

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Rick Baudé March 12, 2018 10:01PM

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Lee Olsen March 12, 2018 10:42PM

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Rick Baudé March 12, 2018 10:50PM

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Lee Olsen March 13, 2018 12:02AM

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Khazar-khum March 13, 2018 04:08PM

Re: A giant capuchin monkey is a better candidate for the smasher of the femurs and teeth of the Cerutti Mastodon than Homo sapiens.

Lee Olsen March 13, 2018 06:21PM

Re: A giant capuchin monkey is a better candidate for the smasher of the femurs and teeth of the Cerutti Mastodon than Homo sapiens.

Khazar-khum March 14, 2018 02:12PM

Re: A giant capuchin monkey is a better candidate for the smasher of the femurs and teeth of the Cerutti Mastodon than Homo sapiens.

Lee Olsen March 14, 2018 08:37PM

No site report means no credible data

Lee Olsen March 14, 2018 08:53AM

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Rick Baudé March 11, 2018 02:57PM

Los Angeles Times vs Ceruttti locality 3767

Lee Olsen March 11, 2018 04:09PM

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