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May 27, 2024, 5:06 pm UTC    
January 01, 2006 04:08PM
Doug Weller Wrote:
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> kenuchelover Wrote:
> > You'll notice that England STILL hasn't given
> back
> > the "official" Stone of Scone from under the
> > Windsor's throne..... despite it being a SCOTTISH
> > national treature & all, & despite
> > previous agreements.
> >
>
> I don't understand this. It was returned in 1996.

Thanks for the correction. I'd heard (in the news) that the return was delayed & then put off indefinately.

Perhaps the news articles were somehow connected to this:

[en.wikipedia.org]
"In 1996 the British Government decided that the Stone should be kept in Scotland when not in use at coronations, and on November 15, 1996, after a handover ceremony at the Border between representatives of the Home Office and of the Scottish Office, it was returned to Scotland and transported to Edinburgh Castle where it remains. Although the Stone is back in Scotland, Edinburgh Castle is the military headquarters of the British Army in Scotland, and some Scots have argued that the stone should be kept someplace solely Scottish, somewhere which could not be interpreted as symbolic of United Kingdom union. Provision has been made to transport the stone to Westminster Abbey when it is required there for future coronation ceremonies".

Or in other words, while the stone was indeed returned to Scotland to stay "most of the time", it's under British control, kept at a British military headquarters, and will be returned to London for any British coronations......

> I don't think that a fake was deliberately
> substituted, although it may be a fake, see for
> instance:
>
> Never left Ireland?
> Never left Scotland?
>
> The stone that was in England and has now been
> returned is made of Perth sandstone, a rock local
> to Scone Abbey.
>
> Doug

Yes, that ID for the stone's composition is one primary reason why it's been suggested that the Stone of Scone in British hands was not the real one.

Kenuchelover.
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