Yes you are missing some information.
What Dash's survey did was make a survey based on Petrie's and convert it into modern units and GPS positions.
Everything he did confirmed Petrie's survey.
I am not sure where you read what you discussed above.
Petrie could survey accurately to a fraction of an inch in 1882. The survey is true, and the two small errors he did make
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Thanks Lee. I will do that. Will report back if I get a response. D
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I want to study the pieces of possible oval red granite sarcophagus found by Petrie in the burial chamber at Abu Rawash, the pyramid of Djedefra in 1882.
Petrie excavated this before he was working for the EEF I believe, so I suspect there is no EEF publication of his. Does anyone know if and where he published the details of his work at Abu Rawash / Roash.
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I suspect it was a core for Menkaure's G3. Medium and other pyramids had several layered cores. Dejedefre's appears to have used sloped casing courses, so there was always experimentation and phasing of construction in case the pharaoh popped his clogs early.
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If your opponent is speaking the truth then you have nothing to fear. That is the point of the instruction surely? If he is speaking the truth then you should be in agreement.
I don't think it's a question of social class, it is a question of professional truth, accuracy, reliability, honesty. It reminds me almost of Christian moral values or of developing a professional reputation.
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Khafre may have had a brother or son who was short lived ruler, but it is difficult to tell for that period. We know almost nothing about Khafre let alone his brothers.
Also, I have no doubt now the encircling symbolism was real and was deliberately incorporated into the monuments and ground plans. I would suggest that if the issue of a sed field, which mirrors pair of stellar triplets, is bas
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Yes - and is this not reflected by a terrestrial ritual which represented the two parts of Egypt and the two skies above simultaneously. So he was symbolically running around the limits of the land and the sky simultaneously. That's my take?
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From the Goedicke publication, there is only one inscribed block (No 7) from Khafre's pyramid which is red granite and appears to be in-situ but is not associated with the sed ritual.
Blocks 16 and 19 from Khufu's complex reused Lisht are extremely interesting however and clearly show the sky, stellar band, the bollards and also possibly a stretching of the cord ceremony. They includ
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Have you a reference to those?
Were they from Lisht? The ones I know of from Lisht reused in the Middle Kingdom were from Khufu's complex. Are there more?
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Does the Palermo stone have anything for Khafre's reign???
I can't think of any other evidence really other than the two statues. The temples don't tell us much, neither does the Sphinx really.
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Hi Graham.
This is of course a possible scenario but I don't think that helps you progress your research any. In fact it hinders it. Because you have decided that this scenario is likely, based on next to no evidence beyond that it would fit nicely with the stellar aspect, you are trying to make the evidence fit the theory and not vice versa. Look for more evidence. What else is there fro
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Hi Hans. Most Egyptologists understand that pharaohs positioned their pyramids according to existing monuments, for 'political' or 'religious' reasons as much as for practical considerations, which were of course a concern. By doing this they could associate themselves and their reigns with political or religious concerns of the pharaohs of the past.
This process is referre
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I like the overall idea but the 'khafre pre-planned Menkaure' doesn't ring true for me I am afraid.
I would envision Menkaure's primary concern was to echo the circular symbolism, and also incorporating a symbolic nod to the stellar aspects of Khufu and Djoser's complexes.
Each pyramid paid homage to its predecessors as well as incorporating original ideas.
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Hi Graham.
I think you mean Menkaure not Khafre yes?
Yes I agree with this analysis of yours. It make sense and explains the shafts.
NB: The sed interpretation and the encircling interpretation are not mutually exclusive. The encirclement binds the two skies, two triplets, together. In fact they reinforce each other which is why the OK AEs would have used them together. It is very cleve
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Deir El-Medina texts show the pharaoh/administration failed to supply promised basic supplies like food to the workforce. They had serious grievances during periods when the centralized rulers failed to rule adequately.
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well if we look at the word shen used in texts from the OK, specifically in the PTs, an analysis by a well known Egyptologist concluded:
"verb Sni comes only with the meanings ‘encircle’, ‘captivate’, and also the same time ‘hold’ and perhaps also ‘bind’. Only later do variations of this verb include the meanings ‘enclose’ and ‘spellbind/ward off’ which are expressed by determinatives. Th
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Interesting discussion Graham. I agree with this interpretation as I have said before here. Additional evidence suggests the Hed Sed was central to the rituals associated with the 3/4 Dynasty pyramids and probably the early Dynastic structures too. The one aspect I would add is that another important purpose of the ritual was to ensure the unification of Upper and Lower Egypt. The king encircled
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Following the failure of their prosecution regarding the James Ossuary, the Israeli Antiquities Authority is being sued for £3m defamation damages by another Israeli scholar and antiquities dealer:
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Or flogging a dead horse???
The fact that its a verrrry long time ago and most of the by-products of these people were biodegradable doesn't seem to factor here.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Haven't been here on Ma'at for a while but thought this should be here FYI:
Dave
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Fortunately science continues but the public is led astray into ignorance!
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There have been a few attempts here to undermine experts when their evidence and conclusions are not welcome. This is a tactic often characteristic of pseudo-historians. One person attacked (I can think of no other description for the tactic) was Professor I.E.S. Edwards. Well of course I hold him in highest esteem, as do other Egyptologists and historians. Here is What Professor Rosalie David (O
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Actually the use of 22/7 (or 3+1/7th as the Egyptians saw it) in the proportions of these buildings is fact, neither pseudoscience nor Afrocentrism.
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Hi Kanga, yes the wheel explanation is utter nonsense. Devised to try and explain away the facts I suspect.
The Seked was indeed used and was normally derived from the chosen proportions, not the converse.
As Petrie showed, the determining proportions chosen for the Great Pyramid and the Meidum Pyramid were based on those of the circle.
As I have shown and explained, this was because the
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quote "I hardly think they thought pi was anymore wonderous than sqrt5"
Exactly.
When they used the ratio 3+1/7th it didn't have the mystical connotations that modern mystics ascribe to it because it had an entirely practical basis.
They used these systems to accurately measure circumferences of buildings, for constructing columns with fluted faces, and for proportionin
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I often enountered deniers here claiming that the Egyptians had no circular structures and so would not need circular calcs. When presented with calcs from the Rhind Papyrus showing circular field and cylindrical granary volume calcs they then said this can't be extrapolated to Old Kingdom - no proof of circular granaries in Old Kingdom they claimed.
Well here is undeniable proof, from be
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Although he is an excellent Egyptologist, I am sure Barry Kemp would not describe himself as an expert on the pyramid architecture of Egypt. Rossi was not an expert, and she also has not worked for Cambridge for a long time. Her book looked for evidence of the use of ratio Phi, a ratio which she correctly concluded has and had no place in a study of Ancient Egypt. I have a copy of the book and am
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Hi Mark,
Incidentally, on reflection on my way to work this morning I realised that I am not sure you correctly interpreted Edwards's 'if' in the quote.
In that context he was using the 'if'...'then' convention to refer to the geometric rule or theorem concerning that particular proportioning of a pyramid. 'If x then y' and so on. It was not a co
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