Thanks Lee. And thanks for going over these details again. It was worth revisiting the issue in case more information becomes available.
Dave.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Hi Lee,
I certainly agree the total width of the conjectured saddle back was ascertainable with accuracy, and it was not 10 cubits but 10.6 cubits.
The height of the supposed structure, almost all of which did not exist, was however not ascertainable with any degree of accuracy at any point of the conjectured curve.
So I think your conclusion 'significantly more likely' is hard
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Hi Lee,
I think the so-called saddle back structure was probably a false line of enquiry. The structure postulated in fact was largely speculative, so any suggested close correspondence is hypothetical.
This is from the article by Gunn in 1926:
"Now the saddle-back construction itself is unfortunately too much ruined to allow its similarity to fig. 4 to be ascertained in more than a
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Hi Lee.
The method described is a geometric construction and can be applied to any span. You could use it for feet or meters just as readily as for cubits.
"unaddressed, issue of why the lengths given in the ostracon for the vertical lines were not then also multiplied by this 1.4 unit factor."
They were correctly factored.
However, it is interesting that as you note, that
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Andy Conner may be still reading this forum, so I am posting this link here. We have been working on the Saqqara ostracon and included his analysis in our research and new article. Thanks Andy.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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This claim is a bit problematic:
"The archaeologists also identified a panel of four signs, created circa 3,250 B.C.E. and written right to left — the dominant writing direction in later Egyptian texts — portraying animal images of a bull’s head on a short pole followed by two back-to-back saddlebill storks with a bald ibis bird above and between them"
If he is using the direction
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Thanks Hermione. I will contact him through there.
Dave.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Hi all,
I wonder if Andrew Conner is still contactable through this site?
We are planning to publish an article that includes his solution for the Saqqara arch ostracon and would like to inform him in advance if possible.
I tried his old email address but it no longer works.
Thanks.
Dave.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Yes it's Seked 5.5, or 5 1/2 or 5 palms 2 digits.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
This is just flogging a dead horse.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Thanks Lee. I am showing pages 1-16.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
This general theory was first postulated by Alan H. Gardiner who worked on the material excavated and recorded by Petrie at Serabit el-Khadim. 1902 iirc.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
I would like to add:
25 points for using anything from the Daily Mail
15 points for using any press releases at all from 2016
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Very sad. Bernard was a very good scholar and a gentleman. I remember many discussion about the influences of racism on scholarship with him over the years when I started studying all this stuff.
He has a profile on Academia.edu with many of his papers posted if anyone would like to follow his research.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Yes - I would think the C14 evidence should weigh pretty heavily on the interpretation. How would earlier remains get in a later burial?
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Ah yes well that would explain some aspects of the reporting of the issue which don't seem to reflect the scientific body of evidence.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Possibly. The DNA gave no information and the C14 was hundreds of years earlier than her time.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
I am not sure the scan 'dramatically' shows anything.
This technique has been used before and it does not produce high quality results. The results are prone to interference and are of low resolution, just like the thermal scans.
There are certainly no grounds to claim anything has been 'found' at this stage.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Its not the case that they can confirm this. At present they only have an anomalous scan.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Premature announcements being made again here I am afraid.
At present they have results from the entrance descending passage they don't understand yet. There are many possibly causes.
That's all. Nothing has been 'found'.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Hi Mark.
Could you add double quotation marks to make clear what is your text and what is mine.
The single quotation marks are very small.
Many thanks,
Dave Lightbody
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Leon. It was the land measure setjat/aurora that was adjusted, not the cubit per se.
I am not sure if this would have translated into an adjustment of the cubit measurement standard for different regions, but I doubt it, despite what I said in my 2008 post referred to above.
I went to see the White Chapel at Karanak after that 2008 conversation Hermione referred to. The inscriptions on it a
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Yes he was just a man.
They may have believed otherwise due to the ideology that they were exposed to, but that doesn't change the fact that he was just a man.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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A belief system which is based in non-factual concepts is delusional. The pharaoh was not a god or a demi-god. He was just a man.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
It was like a shared hallucination, or a self-perpetuating shared delusion.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Ancient Egypt
Thanks. Please send a paper. I am sure you have more on the column dimensions etc?
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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No I was hoping the former. I have not achieved the latter.
Do you have a copy of Chace?
I suppose there is not much point separating a mathematical glossary from the publications of mathematical papyri as there are only a handful, but I also suppose the terms also appear in other non-mathematical papyri and inscriptions from time to time.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Someone (ahem) should make up a mathematical glossary of Egyptian terms....
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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This reminds me of the imaginary Tutankhamun tomb chambers. All hype no reality.
What's frustrating is that the archaeologists doing real work and discovering real new information day-in-day-out are getting no coverage in the papers, while this kid goes global. The kid will also now have to live with his balloon being popped very publicly. The professionals who allowed this to happen
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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Interesting and timely article!
"It seems plausible that the tellers of these tales are getting blinkered by their own feelings of superiority — that the mere act of busting myths makes them more susceptible to spreading them"
Have a great day.
Dave.
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Dr Dave Lightbody
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