See what I mean?
>>So we have a textile that had to be at least 150-200 years old
Not at all unusual back then. As you point out, fine cloth was very valuable and bolts of it were passed down through wealthy families until eventually used. Up until around the turn of the 19th Century, Wealthy Families in Europe would still have their clothes made to measure in their own homes.
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That's a very plausible explanation and you have the experience to back it up. However, I can't help quoting the following from that piece:
QuoteVeterinary experts determined that the cuts were made *before death* and didn't involve cauterization
Cue X-Files music.....
Joe.
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Humanities
Very interesting, I was about to pronounce this a co-incidence of construction, or sound effects added to the video, but it looks genuine:
The guide is saying that the echo is changed in frequency to emulate the sound of a bird.
There's something worth investigating here.
Joe.
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Ancient History
It really doesn't matter how much evidence is amassed that the Shroud is a Medieval forgery (carbon dating, ink analysis, etc., and now comparative fabric analysis), those who believe that the Turin Shroud is genuine will continue to believe it and will continue to find all kinds of clever arguments to "disprove" the latest evidence to the contrary.
Joe.
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Ancient History
I think a Scholar of Smith's stature would have been quite able to put his own sexuality aside when it came to his work. However, a man who was so unafraid of making enemies will surely have more than a few vocal detractors.
From the letters he sent to Gershom Scholem (see the article in The Nation), I think it's safe to say that Smith believed the Clement letter to be genuine (if he
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Depends where they brought in the stone, there is no East wall.
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I'm looking at this magnificent aerial view of Giza (Which is quite old now):
Menkaure's enclosure is bounded by 3 walls, the South wall is at angle. The enclosed area appears to be at least as large as Khafre's enclosure. The important question here is: when were these walls built? If before the Menkaure's pyramid was built, then I think it suggests that a much larger
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I'm not willing to become entangled in the never-ending Pi debate, but, see my reply to Sam. I think there are indications on the site itself that a much larger pyramid was intended for Menkaure.
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I agree with you: it's quite clear (to me, at least) that Khafre's and subsequently Menkaure's Pyramid and Pyramid temple were positioned with a high degree of precision relative to the preceding King's edifice. Where I differ with Graham is on when this was done. I think it was done individually and separately for each pyramid.
Those who built Khafre's pyramid had no
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I would say it was more of a side-effect: it so ended up that way, but the angle was not what was important. I think the AEs were quite capable of drawing and bisecting squares on the Giza plateau to get the distances right for the next pyramid (so none of its faces or the EN&S walls of its temple would be obscured) but I don't think that Menkaure's position was defined by Khafre
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If you look at the plan view of Giza. it's pretty obvious that Khafre's and then Menkaure's pyramid were placed so that none of their faces would be obscured by another pyramid. When they were built, each face of each pyramid had an un-obstructed view of the Horizon. Khafre's architects carefully chose his spot so that his Pyramid would appear to be taller than Khufu's ev
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There are lots of geometric-looking formations on the sea bed around the the Caribbean and in the Pacific coastal regions. Here's one off the coast of Columbia:
These are probably just stress fractures caused as the plate gets sucked into the subduction zone, but you could imagine streets and buildings if you squint.
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You start with a pretty big assumption: that the location of all three pyramids was planned in advance. This would be contrary to every pyramid built before or after the pyramids at Giza and you also ignore the fact that Djedefre (who reigned after Khufu and before Khafre) had his pyramid built at Abu Rawash, not on the Giza plateau at all. If it was pre-determined that the Pharoahs of Dyn IV fro
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They look a lot like digital artifacts to me: transmission errors, maybe? Either that, or somebody has under-layed an integrated circuit print mask under a satellite photo using Photoshop or similar. The fact that they won't give out Geo-coordinates or the source of the image, so that it can be checked, makes me suspicious. I expect the next step will be an attempt to part the gullible from
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The problem with the Global Warming debate is that we simply don't have enough data or enough of the right kind of data to say for sure that it is occurring or not. Check back in 10 years.
The multi-billion dollar business that has sprung-up around Climate Change is cause for concern: I think commercial pressures are partly to blame for the compromise of Scientific impartiality we have s
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Laboratory
I don't think its any surprise that the Greeks would adopt the "Thrice Great" appellation for Hermes, if that is how Thoth was commonly referred to by the Egyptians. The form of discourse where a master is teaching an acolyte is found in other classical philosophical works. The subject matter is interesting, but from the description you give, doesn't seem to have much in commo
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Any advanced civilization existing at the end of the last Ice Age would have had to have lived in the temperate zone between the North and South Ice sheets. They should have left us with plenty of evidence of their existence, not just at the coast, but inland as well, and none of it would have been threatened by the Ice. It's therefore reasonable to argue that if such a civilization had exis
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You should try reading about these things before making speculations that are easily disproved. The Corpus Hermeticum has its roots in Egyptian Gnosticism and was most likely written circa 200-300 AD. It has absolutely nothing to do with Ancient Egyptian religion or beliefs and is entirely Monotheistic. It was mistakenly thought to be from Pharonic Ancient Egypt up until the 17th Century, but nob
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The dating of the tomb is definitely sketchy right now: hopefully they will on-cover enough evidence to provide a firm date range. I stared at the Satellite Radar map for a while and I don't see any fissures stretching from the caves to Khafre's. The image doesn't not have high enough enough resolution, methinks.
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I think it's pretty clear that the underworld was represented by the underground chambers in all 3 Pyramids and some of the tombs at Giza. Were they inspired by the caves and fissures? Maybe, but there's a clear progression from Mastabas to Pyramids and burying your dead underground is hardly a practice unique to the AEs. The closest thing to an underground cave that I can think of is t
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I would say that nothing about the legend of Osiris is Greek.
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Quite correct, but that didn't happen until the Greeks occupied and settled in Egypt.
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Sorry, my reply was meant for Andrew. I replied when viewing the thread in flat mode and it looks like the forum software put my reply under yours somehow.
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I congratulate you on re-discovering this tomb: it does seem to have been forgotten since the end of WW II. However the tomb itself seems to be from a period much later than the building of the Gizamids and also seems to be unremarkable. I agree that the discovery of the caverns behind the tomb is more interesting, but so far, I don't see that anything of interest has been found within them.
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Hi Hermione,
thanks for the links and the welcome, I am now up to speed on this. I will try to hang around longer this time, but who knows what might drag me off in other directions?
If there's no objection, I'd like to re-post the link to Peter Der Manuelian's blog post as it adds useful detail:
More on the So-called “Caves” at Giza
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I'm afraid that you are at odds with most who have studied the origins of Greek Mythology: the Greek Pantheon almost certainly has its origins to the East of Greece, not the West. Egyptian and Greek Mythology only became intertwined during the Alexandrian conquest and subsequent occupation of Egypt.
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Very nice piece of detective work. I can't see why the GP should not follow the Queen's Pyramid in this instance. I have in the past wondered if the Satellite Pyramids were in fact "Apprentice Pieces" used to allow the Architects, Crew Cheifs and Master Masons (who would apply the casing stones to the GP with such great precision) to perfect their art.
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I made my way over here after reading the story at responseresource.com. I'm very interested to read what the regulars here have to say on this. Zahi seems unambiguous about the age of the tomb being Late Kingdom and the association you quote between Khafre's pyramid and the tomb of Hermes/Thoth is also from late in AE history (Greco/Roman) and not at all an ancient belief. You don'
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I wonder if there could have been maritime trade and travel between Ireland and Southwest England and Wales at that time? Round henges are unique to Britain and Ireland, aren't they?
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Methinks they doth borrow their plot from The Bard: Henry IV pt 1 where the young prince is a neer-do well who keeps rowdy company, only to turn into a great King in part the second.
This will either be embarrassingly bad, or really good. There can be no "Just OK" with this movie.
Joe.
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Paper Lens