donald r raab Wrote:
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> But as you say if you throw enough mud some might
> stick. Thats the whole point.
Terrible way of doing research, Donald. Start from the evidence and THEN form the theory... not this bassackwards method Menzies uses...hunting for ANYTHING that might support his conclusion... presenting it... and THEN
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Anthony
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Ancient History
John Wall Wrote:
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> If they find Guinness bottles in a securely dated
> New World context it'll be massive
>
> John
Did somebody say "Guinness"?
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Anthony
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Ancient History
If they find Guinness bottles in a securely dated New World context it'll be massive
John
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John Wall
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Ancient History
John.
If it were the Irish no one would ever hear of it.
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donald r raab
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Ancient History
What ? That the Vikings beat Columbus by about 500 years ?
John
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John Wall
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Ancient History
But as you say if you throw enough mud some might stick. Thats the whole point. Of course it is possible that none will stick. if that is the case then that will verify the western view more strongly than now. And that is a bad thing?
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donald r raab
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Ancient History
You mean the stuff westerners have written since 1492? Winners always write the history and the drive to real transparency is just that.
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donald r raab
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Ancient History
we only look at the moon and see a man because of george melies
the mic mac probably never saw any of his films
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Marduk
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Ancient History
bernard Wrote:
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if you are
> going to postulate that the Micmac did not develop
> their own legend (not a good postulate by the
> way)
Yes ... its my understanding that this is no more than a moon "ink blot" test... whereas we look at the moon and see a man ... other cultures looked at the shadows on the moon and
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Katherine Reece
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Ancient History
Doug Weller Wrote:
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>. He also says
> in the book
> that according to the local Indian folklore, a
> long time ago
> large ships came here and built a base. The local
> Micmac people
> say that these *foreigners* taught them how to
> write. Their
> writing is similar to the script of the Yi people
> of
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bernard
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Ancient History
donald r raab Wrote:
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he is also banking
> on the drive for modern China to validate Chinese
> successes in the past before the opium came.
and drive a wedge between the Chinese and good historiography....
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darkuser
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Ancient History
Doug quoted:
"This year he has also started
his 1421 website at www.1421.tv,
and 13,000 supporters have
provided him with all sorts of
evidence through the website,
which now runs to 2,000 pages."
He seems unable to judge the quality of any of alleged evidence, which his
supporters have provided him. For example, he was incapable of differentiating
natural concretion
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Paul H.
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Ancient History
donald r raab Wrote:
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> Not the research of papres presented in the club
> and published only by the gatekeepers.
Funny how I, a layperson, has been able to read all sorts of these restricted papers ......
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Katherine Reece
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Ancient History
He is doing research.
Not the research of papres presented in the club and published only by the gatekeepers.
He is using the net for this. he is also banking on the drive for modern China to validate Chinese successes in the past before the opium came.
Will it work?
Well as you said you never know. Something like this map might fall out of the closet.
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donald r raab
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Ancient History
It really makes you wonder if all this for real....i mean, if he has evidence, why isn't it being taken seriously...or is he just making empty claims and buying time...
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darkuser
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Ancient History
Well, if he's not telling the truth about the isotopic dating taking place, he'll have a lot of explaining to do.
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Doug Weller
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Ancient History
Thanks for the translation, Doug.
Isn't it convenient... errr... I mean "a shame".... that these great discoveries are never accompanied by photographic technology that would allow the rest of us to be as sure as Mr. Menzies of the authenticity of his discovery?
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Anthony
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Ancient History
in Mooneys Myths and legends of the Cherokee, there was a story about the tribes meeting yellow skinned people who came from the west and stayed with the Tribe for a time before heading back west.
Im just speculating here.
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Jon K
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Ancient History
Just need to wait and see. It all sounds a bit ropy so far....you never know tho.
Dave L
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Dave L
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Ancient History
Thanks to Geoff Wade of Maphist
(original here:
)
He has obtained the ‘Zheng He global map’ (Headline)
By Li Ning
On this, his fifth visit to Shenzhen, Gavin Menzies, the author
of *1421, the Year China Discovered the World*, has revealed
his newest startling evidence: He has obtained the *Zheng He
global map*.
Drawn in 1418, it is the earliest and m
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Doug Weller
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Ancient History
Sorry it took a while for me to get this up. I haven't sorted out the connection for my flat yet, so I post from the college library.
heh...the promised 3-page-long autobiography.....NOT!
Anyway, for those who don't already know, i'm a 22 year old student studying Engineering at Bath, UK. Originally from London though, where my family is and where i spent all of my life. Fai
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darkuser
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Coffee Shop
You see the problem with all this? Now everything concerning Zheng He is going to go "minimalist"....it's an undying pattern. That's why pseudoscience is potentially dangerous! I've seen it happen for several subjects already.
And about sales, those critiquing Dan Brown did pretty well...
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darkuser
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Ancient History
None of my local Toronto Universitries has it. Darn!!
Pierre
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Pacal
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Ancient History
This comes highly recommended, but hard to get and expensive:
"1421" voyages: fact & fantasy by Captain P.J. Rivers, 2004, Perak Academy, Ipoh, Malaysia. ISBN 983 40556 4 1
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Doug Weller
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Ancient History
Simon Wrote:
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> darkuser Wrote:
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> > My position has always been that we should
> not
> > encourage creationists or those considering
> > creationism by constantly telling how little
> we
> > know, how scientific paradigms will change
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bernard
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Laboratory
darkuser Wrote:
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> My position has always been that we should not
> encourage creationists or those considering
> creationism by constantly telling how little we
> know, how scientific paradigms will change
> overnight, how theories are overturned and that
> nothing is certain. This is a very cynical and
> pessimi
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Simon
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Laboratory
My position has always been that we should not encourage creationists or those considering creationism by constantly telling how little we know, how scientific paradigms will change overnight, how theories are overturned and that nothing is certain. This is a very cynical and pessimistic way of doing or teaching science. How on earth are we going to inspire people's confidence in science. Gi
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darkuser
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Laboratory