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March 19, 2010 10:58AM
Ogygos Wrote:
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> Since in Egypt as also elsewhere a decadic
> numbering system was used we can consider one “1”
> as the smallest number and ten “10” to represent
> the largest number or symbolically infinity. Is
> this the reason for the decans? From wiki:

No, we can't consider 10 as the largest number because they had signs for other numbers. They had no signs for infinity. Decans were probably, as was explained, a convenient way of dividing things since we have 10 fingers on our hands and so forth.

>
> Since stars represent very far away object –
> relating thus to infinity it makes sense to use 10
> to divide the 360 degrees of a circle.

They didn't use 360 degrees. That's a Babylonian development.

> This
> reminds us of the Pythagorean notion mentioned by
> Aristotelis of zero plus infinite equals 1 or
> “peperasmenon(finite)” plus “in-finite” gives the
> whole(one ).

Which, mathematically speaking, is dead wrong. Infinity plus anything is still infinity. See the "Hilbert hotel" concept.

> On the other hand the arithmetic value of the
> letter lambda is 30(it is the 12th letter). At the
> same time the gematria value of deka(ten in
> Hellenic is also 30!

I don't know whose concept of gematria you're using, but the original comes from the Hebrews and was developed about 70 AD. Lamed is indeed the value of 30 in the gematria, but "10=30" is not correct.

> DEKA = 4 + 5 + 20 + 1 = 30

> It thus seems that there is a correlation between
> number characteristics, the decans, the Egyptian
> numerals, and the creation of the alphabet – by
> who?

By you. The idea that they would create things in one language that are explained by an elaborate code written 3,000 years later in another language with different word sounds and fewer letters doesn't make sense.

> Now returning to the semi-circle – dome shape
> of the ten symbol we notice that if the diameter
> of the virtual circle it forms is the height of
> the GP (280 units)

280 units of what? Inches? Parsecs? Measurements that didn't come into existence until 2,000 years after Egypt collapsed? The sky was not measured in 360 degrees by the Egyptians... and it's not entirely clear to me that the hour divisions of the night (marked by rising star groups) were equally divided.

> is that in wiki I was only able to find the
> masculine and feminine gender – not the neutral
> one – which I would think is more suitable when
> referring to numbers as “things”. I copy:

(sigh) Just because YOU think it's more suitable doesn't mean that the people of 5,000 years ago thought it was more suitable.

> It seems to
> me that from the above we can derive a root:
> mud

You can derive what you like, but it makes no sense.

> Thus using the Hellenic alphabet

Again, "WHY"? Is your concept that the world secretly ran on numeric permutations of a language that developed some 60,000 years AFTER the first homo sapiens appeared (and some 4.5 million years after the first "human-looking" hominids appeared? A language that was derived from other languages local to its area and appearing nowhere else on the planet? A numeric mystical concept developed long after the original language (Hebrew) appeared?

> But even if we go to the Hieratic
> lambda form we notice two sides of an equilateral
> triangle.

That wasn't the 12th letter in their alphabet.

> Anybody have any idea of what archetypal or
> theologic concept led the Egyptians to choose the
> 10 symbol?

No. As they developed the script they didn't stop to say "we're making this letter look like Uncle Hotep's cane." Nor did they write or know Hebrew or Greek.


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Egyptian numerals

Ogygos March 15, 2010 12:26PM

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Ogygos March 19, 2010 09:21AM

correction

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