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May 17, 2024, 8:11 pm UTC    
November 13, 2009 05:44AM
Ramose Wrote:
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> As for your latest effort. The circle is wrong,
> the position of the Subterranean Chamber is wrong

I can't agree with your observation about the location of the Subterranean Chamber.
The Chamber's north wall is roughly 4 feet south of the Pyramid's E-W axis, and Clive's drawing is, I think, fairly representative of this.
Vertically below the base the Chamber seems about right.
Perhaps you could post why you think it is inaccurate.


> and the position of the Grotto is wrong (nice
> colours though).

Indeed it is.
Clive has it sitting at a level approximately halfway up the Ascending Passage when in fact it is closer to the DP/AP junction around 25 feet lower down.
Then there's the question of where inside the Grotto Clive's reference point is.
The Grotto is big enough for two or three people to mill around in, so there's quite a bit of leeway there.


> You're not relying on Petrie are you? Oh dear...
>
> Using 21st century software and 19th century data
> is never going to get you anywhere.

I find these comments puzzling.
Petrie's The Pyramids and Temples of Giza First Edition 1883, is without doubt the single most reliable reference work on the actual measurements of Khufu's pyramid.
However, it must be made clear that Petrie did make some mistakes (notably and topically the length of the Descending Passage floor), and his survey of the base has been partially superseded (though not in the opinion of everybody) by Cole's survey of 1925.
What few errors there are in Petrie's book (not all of his own making) can be quickly and easily picked up and corrected through reference to works by Piazzi Smyth, Rutherford (perhaps surprisingly), J & M Edgar, Cole, M & R, Dormion, Lepre, Verner and so on.

I think the lesson here is: don't rely solely on Petrie's The Pyramids and Temples of Giza First Edition 1883. smiling smiley

MJ


We can't all be right, but we could all be wrong ...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2009 05:47AM by MJ Thomas 2.
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Locating the Grotto.

Clive November 12, 2009 11:28PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Don Barone November 13, 2009 12:22AM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Clive November 13, 2009 09:40PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

MJ Thomas 2 November 13, 2009 04:02AM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Clive November 13, 2009 09:52PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

MJ Thomas 2 November 13, 2009 11:06PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Ramose November 13, 2009 05:08AM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

MJ Thomas 2 November 13, 2009 05:44AM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Ramose November 13, 2009 10:22AM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

MJ Thomas 2 November 13, 2009 12:49PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Clive November 13, 2009 09:39PM

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Hermione November 13, 2009 10:35PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Clive November 13, 2009 09:19PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

MJ Thomas 2 November 13, 2009 10:47PM

Re: Locating the Grotto.

Clive November 13, 2009 11:49PM



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