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May 17, 2024, 2:33 am UTC    
July 09, 2009 06:08AM
Clive Wrote:
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> Hermione Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > that we know as pi. (see Problem 50 of Rhind Papyrus).
>
> Problem 50 is a simple means of calculating an
> "approximate" value of circular area and it only
> works accurately for a circumference of 9 units.
>
> If you venture to RMP 60 you will discover that
> the answer of cone volumes compared to spherical
> volumes are perfect and the concept of (8/9)^2
> from problem 50 could not have been used. This
> proves that the method used in problem 50 is an
> approximation only.
>
>
> > But what about the sekeds used for other pyramids ... ??
>
> Why do you assume a seked being used from the
> "suggestions" above?

Problems 56 to 60 of the Rhind Papyrus deal with Pyramids; the relation of the lengths of two sides of a triangle.
Problem 60:
"[In] a pillar (iwn) [or perhaps a cone?] with a base-side (sntt) [or perhaps a diameter?] of 15 cubits and a height of 30 [cubits], what is its seqed?
Take 1/2 of 15; it is 7 1/2. Operate on 30 so as to get 7 1/7. The result is 1/4, which is the seqed" (Clagett 1999)

Whether or not the AEs were able to calculate the surface area of a sphere is very much a grey area.
Broadly, it depends mainly on how one interprets Problem 10 of the Moscow Mathematical Papyrus - a Problem which may or may not involve a hemispheric-shaped basket.

See also a post of Clive's to "Ancient Egypt": Round Fields
(see [www.hallofmaat.com] )

I would suggest that Clive's understanding of Egyptian Mathematics is, how shall I put it, different to mainstream thinking.

MJ



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2009 06:14AM by MJ Thomas 2.
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Circles

Hermione June 26, 2009 03:56AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Anthony June 26, 2009 07:34AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 26, 2009 06:07PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Anthony June 26, 2009 07:46PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 05:32AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 27, 2009 05:58AM

Exactly

Anthony June 27, 2009 07:51AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive June 27, 2009 09:51AM

Snickering.... for Hermione

Anthony June 27, 2009 11:03AM

Re: Snickering.... for Hermione

Hermione June 27, 2009 11:10AM

Re: Snickering.... for Hermione

Pistol June 27, 2009 11:52AM

**Moderation note**

Hermione June 27, 2009 12:06PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 27, 2009 11:06AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive June 27, 2009 04:46PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 27, 2009 05:10PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive June 27, 2009 07:19PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 28, 2009 04:22AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon July 03, 2009 11:24AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive July 05, 2009 09:37PM

thank you

Warwick L Nixon July 08, 2009 11:26AM

Re: thank you

Jammer July 08, 2009 02:28PM

Re: thank you

Clive July 08, 2009 08:22PM

Re: thank you

Jammer July 09, 2009 03:40PM

Re: thank you

Clive July 09, 2009 09:43PM

Re: thank you

Clive July 08, 2009 08:46PM

Re: thank you

Warwick L Nixon July 09, 2009 01:37PM

Re: thank you

Clive July 09, 2009 09:50PM

Re: thank you

Warwick L Nixon July 10, 2009 11:41AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

tim July 11, 2009 09:01AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Pistol June 27, 2009 11:43AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Pistol June 27, 2009 12:47PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 27, 2009 02:56PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Pistol June 27, 2009 03:34PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Pistol June 27, 2009 04:10PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive June 27, 2009 07:49PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive June 27, 2009 07:43PM

Instead of smoke and mirrors

Warwick L Nixon June 27, 2009 03:21PM

Re: Instead of smoke and mirrors

Clive June 27, 2009 08:03PM

as I expected

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 12:22AM

Re: as I expected

Clive June 28, 2009 02:01AM

**Sub-thread closed**

Hermione June 28, 2009 04:03AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 12:46PM

Yes, but...

Anthony June 27, 2009 02:02PM

Re: Yes, but...

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 02:30PM

Re: Yes, but...

Warwick L Nixon June 27, 2009 03:11PM

Re: Yes, but...

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 07:20PM

Re: Yes, but...

Anthony June 27, 2009 05:52PM

Re: Yes, but...

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 08:23PM

Re: Yes, but...

Anthony June 29, 2009 10:12AM

Re: Yes, but...

MJ Thomas 2 June 29, 2009 02:00PM

Final note re Perimeter

Warwick L Nixon June 27, 2009 03:42PM

Re: Final note re Perimeter

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 07:32PM

Re: Final note re Perimeter

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 12:06AM

Re: Final note re Perimeter

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 06:32AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 27, 2009 03:46PM

the Occult

Warwick L Nixon June 27, 2009 03:52PM

Re: the Occult

Anthony June 27, 2009 05:59PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 07:16PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 12:10AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 09:29AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue - clarification

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 04:09PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue - clarification

Clive June 29, 2009 08:37AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue - clarification

Warwick L Nixon July 01, 2009 12:06PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue - clarification

MJ Thomas 2 July 01, 2009 06:50PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Anthony July 02, 2009 11:50AM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Hermione July 02, 2009 02:06PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

MJ Thomas 2 July 02, 2009 02:23PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Hermione July 02, 2009 02:30PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

MJ Thomas 2 July 02, 2009 02:46PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Clive July 05, 2009 10:06PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Hermione July 06, 2009 03:52AM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Byrd July 09, 2009 08:49PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Clive July 09, 2009 10:09PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Clive July 05, 2009 09:48PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Hermione July 06, 2009 03:50AM

Circles at Giza.

Clive July 07, 2009 07:12PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Clive July 07, 2009 07:27PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Hermione July 08, 2009 01:56AM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Clive July 08, 2009 08:31PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

Clive July 08, 2009 08:38PM

Re: Circles - Strawman Argument

MJ Thomas 2 July 02, 2009 02:18PM

Re: Circles - Another Strawman Argument

Anthony July 02, 2009 02:57PM

**Moderation note**

Hermione July 02, 2009 03:25PM

Re: Circles - Another Strawman Argument

MJ Thomas 2 July 02, 2009 04:36PM

Obfuscation

Anthony July 02, 2009 07:36PM

Re: Obfuscation

Sirfiroth July 03, 2009 06:37AM

False claim and erroneous assertion

Anthony July 03, 2009 08:58AM

Re: False claim and erroneous assertion

MJ Thomas 2 July 03, 2009 05:33PM

Re: False claim and erroneous assertion

Warwick L Nixon July 04, 2009 11:33AM

Belief, Theory and Fact

Anthony July 04, 2009 08:05PM

Re: Belief, Theory and Fact

MJ Thomas 2 July 05, 2009 07:04AM

Re: Obfuscation

MJ Thomas 2 July 03, 2009 02:51PM

Re: Obfuscation

Warwick L Nixon July 03, 2009 03:06PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Hermione June 28, 2009 05:20AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 09:08AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 11:20AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 11:34AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 11:46AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 02:27PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon July 01, 2009 12:16PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 July 01, 2009 07:11PM

Wow

Warwick L Nixon July 03, 2009 10:58AM

Re: Wow

MJ Thomas 2 July 04, 2009 10:36AM

Re: Wow

Warwick L Nixon July 04, 2009 11:41AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Sirfiroth July 03, 2009 07:55AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Sirfiroth July 03, 2009 06:47AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon July 03, 2009 11:06AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 July 03, 2009 05:13PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Sirfiroth July 03, 2009 08:29PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 July 04, 2009 11:01AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon July 04, 2009 11:23AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

cladking July 04, 2009 12:28PM

Design---Execution

Warwick L Nixon July 04, 2009 01:00PM

Re: Design---Execution

cladking July 04, 2009 01:28PM

au contraire

Warwick L Nixon July 05, 2009 11:45AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Sirfiroth July 05, 2009 10:46PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

cladking July 04, 2009 12:16PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 July 04, 2009 03:17PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Anthony July 05, 2009 03:53AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Greg Reeder July 05, 2009 06:54PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon June 27, 2009 03:15PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 27, 2009 07:27PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 12:15AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

MJ Thomas 2 June 28, 2009 06:42AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Warwick L Nixon June 28, 2009 10:54AM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

cladking June 27, 2009 08:30PM

Re: Circles - Another important issue

Clive June 27, 2009 12:54AM

Re: Circles

MJ Thomas 2 June 26, 2009 10:06AM

Excuse Me

Roxana Cooper July 04, 2009 11:38AM

yeah well

Warwick L Nixon July 04, 2009 11:46AM

Re: Excuse Me

MJ Thomas 2 July 04, 2009 01:40PM

Re: Excuse Me

Roxana Cooper July 05, 2009 10:57AM

Here here... but then again....

Anthony July 05, 2009 05:23PM

Re: Here here... but then again....

Warwick L Nixon July 08, 2009 12:43PM

Re: Here here... but then again....

Clive July 08, 2009 07:47PM

3 questions

Warwick L Nixon July 09, 2009 01:30PM

Re: 3 questions

Clive July 09, 2009 10:16PM

Re: 3 questions

Warwick L Nixon July 10, 2009 11:54AM

Re: 3 questions

Clive July 12, 2009 01:10AM

Re: 3 questions

Warwick L Nixon July 12, 2009 10:51AM

Re: Circles

Lee July 04, 2009 01:57PM

Re: Circles

Roxana Cooper July 05, 2009 11:00AM

Re: Circles

Clive July 08, 2009 08:12PM

Re: Circles

MJ Thomas 2 July 09, 2009 06:08AM

Re: Circles

Clive July 09, 2009 10:24AM

Re: Circles

MJ Thomas 2 July 09, 2009 12:20PM

Re: Circles

Clive July 09, 2009 10:18PM

Re: Circles

MJ Thomas 2 July 10, 2009 03:16AM

Re: Circles

Clive July 12, 2009 01:38AM

Re: Circles

Warwick L Nixon July 09, 2009 01:50PM

Re: Circles

MJ Thomas 2 July 09, 2009 02:29PM

Re: Circles

Sirfiroth July 09, 2009 07:30PM

Re: Circles

Warwick L Nixon July 10, 2009 11:37AM

Re: Circles

Clive July 09, 2009 10:28PM

Re: Circles

Tommi Huhtamaki July 10, 2009 02:29AM

Re: Circles

Warwick L Nixon July 10, 2009 12:01PM

Re: Circles

Clive July 12, 2009 01:22AM

Re: Circles

Warwick L Nixon July 12, 2009 11:00AM

Re: Circles

MJ Thomas 2 July 12, 2009 04:29PM

Re: Circles

Jammer July 13, 2009 03:57PM

why ask me?

Warwick L Nixon July 14, 2009 12:08PM

Re: why ask me?

Hermione July 14, 2009 12:28PM

Re: why ask me?

Warwick L Nixon July 14, 2009 12:47PM

Re: why ask me?

Hermione July 14, 2009 01:53PM

Re: why ask me?

Warwick L Nixon July 14, 2009 02:26PM

Re: why ask me?

MJ Thomas 2 July 14, 2009 05:07PM

semantics

Warwick L Nixon July 15, 2009 10:43AM

Speaking of sekeds...

L Cooper July 14, 2009 10:25AM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

Warwick L Nixon July 15, 2009 12:38PM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

L Cooper July 15, 2009 02:11PM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

Warwick L Nixon July 15, 2009 02:57PM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

L Cooper July 16, 2009 06:15AM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

Warwick L Nixon July 16, 2009 09:08AM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

lobo-hotei August 14, 2009 05:05AM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

L Cooper August 15, 2009 06:59AM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

Sirfiroth August 15, 2009 08:15PM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

Don Barone August 16, 2009 10:37PM

error in translations

Sirfiroth August 17, 2009 06:52PM

Re: error in translations

Don Barone August 17, 2009 08:14PM

Re: error in translations

Sirfiroth August 18, 2009 03:47PM

Re: Speaking of sekeds...

cladking August 14, 2009 12:56PM



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