Hermione Wrote:
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>
> >
> > The context one discovers when one studies
> beyond
> > one's calculator.
>
> Can you provide a bit more information, though,
> Anthony? 2 x 1 rectangles can be found in
> architectural contexts from time to time in
> various parts of the ANE ... but is the fact that
> it such a rectangle is also found in the GP simply
> coincidental? Or is there some particular
> religious/historical reason why 2 x 1 rectangles
> might have figured in the KC ... ??
There may be cultural reasons that relate directly to this particular ratio, but it is up to a theory's proponent to prove those relationships, rather than for people like myself to provide speculations, or even hypotheses, regarding those relationships.
However, until such a relationship is reasonably demonstrated, the fact remains that it may have just been a simple custom... a habit, not an encoded piece of occult geometry.
>
> People spend their time in many ways ... can we
> have no more comment on this, please: just
> discussion of the evidence.
When the evidence is provided, it will be my pleasure to discuss it. When baseless assertions are made, however, it is also my pleasure to expose them.
>
> No, it doesn't. If there is a pattern, why
> shouldn't that be evidence, too?
Because patterns exist in everything, Hermione. Finding a pattern is absolutely no indication of intent.
Kate Spence found a pattern between certain stars and certain pyramids. It was all well and good, but as usual, as soon as more data was inserted into the logic stream, it collapsed entirely. The problem lies in the use of speculations as foundations for theories. Evidence must be the foundation, not assumption.
The idea that these maths are the intention, and not just the symptom, is flawed in its entirety.
> We would
> immediately have to ask, of course, whether the AE
> actually intended to implement such a pattern, or
> was it just coincidence: an inevitable consequence
> of the fact that they were planning a
> pyramid-shaped construction?
There is a pyramid shaped structure, with a certain slope and interior volume. Within those confines, we have certain religion-driven parameters to which the builders had to adhere in order for the structure to function properly as a magical revivification device. All the mathematical coincidences we see are simply the result of people using a specific measurement system within a specific design parameter. They are artifacts of the system being used, and not the desired output of the project itself.
>
> AS:
> > Coincidence hunting is a
> > game for amateurs who don't know any better
> about
> > how things really work.
>
> But some coincidences might have been intentional
If it is proven to be intentional, then it is not a coincidence. One must start first with the proof, however, and not the coincidence.
We can find coincidences anywhere, Hermione. Chasing them is nothing but a waste of time, as it consumes that valuable time necessary for studying the culture and maybe uncovering what IS a meaningful relationship between the structure and the culture that built it.
> ...
>
> MJT:
> > > Tim has found a recurring mathematical
> > pattern
> > > (the application of 9/79ths or
> equivalent of
> > in
> > > unit fractions, etc.) in some of the
> > dimensions
> > > of Khufu’s pyramid.
>
> I have to say that I find it very hard to imagine
> quite why the AE would have thought in 79ths, of
> all fractions.
>
Perhaps Khufu was born on the 7th of September? Or maybe July 9th, here in the states?
> AS:
> > And I found Pi, Phi and the circumference of
> the
> > earth encoded in a bathroom stall at my old
> > office.
>
> Yes, but your old office wasn't built and planned
> by Khufu's architects, was it ....
Prove it wasn't built by the Freemasons, though, who have a long lineage back to Khufu's architects and geomancers. You can't prove it's not true, so the parallel stands even stronger!
God, that hurt.
>
> > Do you have a point to make that has any
> > more meaning than Potty Pi?
>
> I don't think MJT actually mentioned pi here,
> though, did he?
>
No, but I did. It is a mathematical ratio discovered in a set of selected dimensions from a structure that was completely unrelated to the ratio in the first place. It is no different than the 79ths thing Tim has found. Just because it's Pi doesn't mean it's special, or different, from any other coincidence that can be found.
Give me a few seconds and I'll find my birthday encoded in any structure you choose. It really is a fool's errand.
>
> AS:
> > So study all the pyramids. Studying one will
> give
> > you nothing but a collection of meaningless
> > coincidences that you have selected, not
> because
> > they were intended.
>
> Well, yes: except that the thinking and context
> behind each one presumably varied ... The GP
> tends to be everyone's favourite, because it's the
> biggest and most impressive.
>
I personally find it to be far less impressive than the Red. The Red broke the mold, finally. It was the original true pyramid in Egypt. Even the interior Grand Gallery of Khufu's pyramid is nothing but a copy of the interior of his father's satellite pyramid at the Bent. Khufu just threw more stones in ONE pile than did his father, who built THREE monster pyramids. Yet Sneferu and his viziers get almost no credit from the numerologists of the world. I'm personally happy the geomancers can't find the measurements they need to continue their occult coincidence hunting. It would take away from the real achievements put forth at the beginning of the Fourth Dynasty and focus attention on ethnocentric superimpositions that have no relevance at all to the culture that built these structures.
Personal preference question: Which is more impressive, a Boeing 767, or the Wright brother's flyer?
I opt for the tiny, delicate, single-passenger flyer. That was the real genius. Everything else that has come since then, no matter how big, how fast, or how sleek, is just "me too" thinking. Anybody can do something once somebody else has done it. The real achievement is in the initial discovery. That's what takes the guts. That's what takes the brains. That's what deserves the true honor (or honour, as the case may be).
Have a great Sunday.
Anthony
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.