>>And how do you intend to prove the spellings haven't changed?
Those were the exact three words they used?<<

It is a complex subject. All I know is that if we do not look into the oldest forms of an ancient Hellenic name we cannot decode the it come uncover planetary data. First of all Pater is ancient Greek for father.

OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN(sky)

Greek:

Our pater who art in Uranus.

In the Ionic alphabet it is written PATHR. As for Neptan I have never read about this form it is something I have deduced as an archaic Latin form. Let’s just compute the value of the later forms of three mythological figures Kronus, Uranus, and Oceanus(Oa: Omega):

KRONOS = 510
OYRANOS = 891
OaKEANOS = 1146

KRONOS has not changes since it has no letters that give us a hard time like H, X, Ph, Oa, ”OY”, “EI”, “EY” etc. We notice:

KRONOS = 510
Uranus equatorial diameter = 51118 km

Let’s move on to the other words. The Omega letter was first depicted using only one O and then two OO to show the long O which later became the Omega letter thus in this case:

OOKEANOS = PATER = NEPTAN = 486
Kafre-Khufu centre base distance = 486.877 m
Neptune polar diameter = 48682 km

Let’s now go on to Uranus. In the Doric dialect it was written with an Omega: OaRANOS – no “Y”. In this case we can similarly deduce a OORANOS = 561 which looks like a dead end. Way back it might have been written with one O giving:

ORANOS = 491
Neptune mean volumetric diameter = 49248 km

But let’s not forget Horus. In ancient Greek it is written as OaROS with an Omega. This means that in certain city states instead of writing the long O using a double OO they used the rough breathing H in front of the O to depict the long O sound. It is in these same cities that PATHR(H: long E) would be written as Pater. On the other hand in the Ionic alphabet Pater is written as PATHR since the rough breathing H is not used in front of vowels here. Thus just like Horus we would have(summing it up):

HORANOS = 499
Uranus polar diameter = 49946 km

OOKEANOS = PATER = NEPTAN = 486
Neptune polar diameter = 48682 km

Now let’s try to decode Poseidon. The ancient Hellenic dictionary says it comes from Potei + Das(lord of the Earth). We have three forms, Homeric(I remind Oa: Omega): POSEIDAOaN, Ionic: POSEIDEON, and the Doric POTEIDAN(remember Neptan?). At ancient times though the double vowel “EI” was written using a single “E”. Also we can substitute the Omega with an O or a double O. We thus come up with:

POSEDAON = 480
POSEDEON = 484
POTEDAN = KRONOS(Cronus) = 510

Now we are really mixed up. We know for a fact that Ionic usually holds little of the ancient knowledge. But to decode things we should take into account the usage of the ancient vaw or F – double gamma symbol that from some time on was lost from the language and the alphabet. In this case the Potedan version cannot contain an F – based on phonetic rules. On the other hand we can come up with(I have confirmed F’s use in Poseidon from other sources, I have not made it up):

POSEDAFON = 486
POSEDEFON = 490

We loose the Ionic version and sum things up where we see that Poseidon and Potidan refer to different celestial bodies!!!

OOKEANOS = PATER = NEPTAN = POSEDAFON = 486
Neptune polar diameter = 48682 km

HORANOS = 499
Uranus polar diameter = 49946 km

KRONOS = POTEDAN = 510
Uranus equilateral diameter = 51118 km


>>That any ancient knew your numerology system adds those specific words up to 486?<<
I use the ancient Greek letter/number values the same exact ones they used.

>>Example, what if a female goddess was associated, what does Mater do to it? And is Pater ancient Greek? I thought it was Latin?<<
Pater is ancient Greek.

MATER = 40 + 1 + 300 + 5 + 100 = 446
MHTHR = 40 + 8 + 300 + 8 + 100 = 456
This does not match. Mater referred to mother Earth so it has nothing to do with the planet Neptune.

>>How do you account for them waiting an extra 4,188 years to INVENT the meter your math is based on?<<
They didn’t. They knew about it. It was called Phidonian tripod or Phidonian triple foot/yard.

>>Your entire argument goes out the window once you use measurements the AE would have used!<<
The designers of the Egypt pyramids knew about the meter measure. The fact is that the AE did not create Greek word for gods or anything else.

>>But whole numbers were so magical to the AE I find it hard to believe they didn't originally choose something complete in their culture.<<
If whole numbers were so magical why not use them in other pyramids apart from Khufu’s?

P.S. English is very helpful because it bypasses Ionic and goes back to Greek dialect closer to the ancient wisdom like Aeolic or Doric.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2008 03:28PM by Ogygos.