Jammer Wrote:
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> >>My "guess" is the Ancient Egyptians built
> the pyramids consistent with the tools and
> engineering we know they possessed.<<

Ogygos Wrote

> So every time we uncover new tools that they used the reality of how they built their pyramid changes.
HOW? If you have seen evidence that "new" tools they haven't discovered before have been found, please share that evidence asap. If you mean "we found another fire hardened copper chisel just like the other 50 we've found" then HOW does that shift the knowledge Paradigm?

> Thus it’s like a butterfly affect but with no time barriers. One day an Egyptologist
> digs up a chisel and wham! the past universe space-time coordinates change automatically so
> as to fit in with his discovery.

What does that mean? Space Time coordinates are an attempt to take GPS to the next plateau. It adds to the three dimensions of space a fourth dimension of time. So I am at space-time coordinates of > my desk > Northeast Pennsylvania > USA > 2:25PM EST 8/05/2008.

By YOUR typed statement an Egyptology Specialist finding a chisel moved either his phisical location or time warped him by the nature of merely discovering it?


Jammer wrote;
> >>But my guess is a logical conclusion based on recovered artifacts and writings. These
> artifacts include copper chisels, copper manual impact drills, copper saws with sand as the
> abrasive, smoothing stones, cubit rods, and some elementary math written in papyri.<<
> My guess is a logical conclusion based on recovered artifacts and writings. These artifacts
> include distance/dimension/angle surveys of ancient architecture, probability/statistics
> analysis, mythology and arithmetic analysis of key names and words, and using aspects of
> ancient plans to predict things like where an unknown ancient site is or an unknown
> celestial body is.

Ogygos wrote;
> All the tools you refer to help us understand how
> they physically built the pyramids, but it does
> not explain why, how, and who designed them.

You're moving the cheese Ogy. You stated HOW they built the pyramids is anybodys guess. I argued that was false. You now change that to WHY they built the pyramids is anybodys guess.

NO Duh. WHY the AE did what they did is ten times more complex than how they did it. But that wasn't what we started discussing.

Jammer wrote;
>> In my humble opinion construction did NOT include; Spaceships, ancient vanished
> civilizations, lost advanced sciences, forgotten machinery, advanced computing, direct
> contact with aliens. 12,000 year old hidden agendas, or any of that fringe
> stuff.<<

Ogygos wrote;
> Yes but that’s just your opinion, as mines is that it did include some of that stuff. The
> only difference is that I can prove it.


I'm on the edge of my chair, show me the proof.

Jammer wrote;
>>PS; Might I assume you might find the statement "The Greeks couldn't have built their
> civilization without external aid, they were too primitive" insulting.
> Why would the Egyptians be any less insulted?<<

Ogygos wrote;
> Politics have nothing to do with science. Iamatic Platonic lies are not compatible with
> scientific procedure. Thus it matters not who is insulted by the truth since it exists
> independently of our feelings.

WHAT proof? WHAT Scientific procedure?
I'm referencing real archeology; recovered cubits, saws, papyri, bits, chisels...
You call that "lies" and refer to non-submitted proof you alone are privy to?
As science?

Jammer