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May 20, 2024, 12:47 pm UTC    
April 15, 2019 08:49AM
Chris Tedder Wrote:
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> Pistol: “Also, nowhere (AFAIK) in the pyramid
> text, coffin texts or book of dead will you find
> that the deities or gods speak to the deceased or
> each other, the texts describe only their actions
> or deeds not their words.”
>
>
> Sah (Orion), ‘father of the gods’ (PT 274 §408c),
> spoke:
>
> A sweet breeze to your nose! Orion (sAH) says to
> the 'Plough' / 'Big Dipper' (msxtjw): 'Take from
> your lake what I take from my lake, that we may
> prepare a place for N'. Stand upon a XA-cloth, a
> six-weave cloth upon your shoulder, grant the
> crane's way to the sky. CT 61; I, 264c
>
> I am Orion (sAH) who treads (sAH, lit. toes) his
> Two Lands, who navigates in front of the stars of
> the sky on the belly of my mother Nut... CT 227;
> III, 263a
>
> Spell for reaching Orion… O Sirius (spdt) my
> soul, make my path ready, set up a stairway to the
> great plain, for you are my mother(?), and Hu is
> at (the place) whence Orion (sAH) issues. I find
> Orion standing on the path with the staff in his
> hand, and I set up the staff and receive it, and I
> am a god by means of it. He gives me the staff
> which is in his hand, and he says: "Give me my
> son, for it is he who rises in peace; you shall be
> ennobled before your throne, for you are my son,
> for you are my son, the lord of my house". CT
> 470; V, 398h, 399hi
>
> Orion (sAH) speaks: 'He is my son, older than I
> (sic) - so says Orion (sAH). '......N, who is
> pure and young, and Sopdet (spdt) bore him, (even)
> she the young, she of the year, a goddess from her
> birth who is at the start of the year... CT 689;
> VI, 319
>
> Orion: 'See, I have indeed come' - so says Orion.
> I bring to you the two shares of which you have
> asked for from me and those in charge of them.
> Let me know what those two have done <about>
> what you asked for - so says Orion. CT 689; VI,
> 320c
>
> O Orion, here am I; I have come as ruler of the
> moringa-tree........Thus says Orion to me: 'You
> have acquired all their powers, you have forgotten
> nothing. See you have come spiritualized and
> equipped; establish yourself on this throne of
> your, which is superior to (all) thrones, for
> there is no god who can surpass you… Thus says
> Orion to me: Come and tell what the god does who
> comes equipped and who opens the earth for himself
> through what he knows on the day when he desires
> to come hence… Thus says Orion concerning me:
> This god is equipped, he has come equipped […] the
> elder gods; he has eaten their magic, he has
> swallowed their powers… Thus says Orion to me: O
> you who have appeared, may you be strong and on
> your food…. CT 1017; VII, 236b,s; 237s; 239b,x

I stand corrected, thank you .... of course you are the pro Mr. Tedder!


>
>
> He was also quite active:
>
> Orion has gathered together his fields which are
> in the house. Great is Orion (sAH) in judgment...
> CT 253; III, 353b, 354a
>
> He who flies up is he who sits at the place where
> Osiris is. My mother is Sirius (spdt), and she
> prepares my path, she sets up a stairway to this
> very great plain of Nenmut for my ascent from the
> Valley of the Mountain of the Sehseh-bird on the
> north with my river-banks, at the place where
> Orion issues. I find Orion standing in my path
> with his staff of rank(?) in his hand; I accept
> it from him and I will be a god by means of it.
> He gives me his staff which is in his hand, and I
> will cause the strong ones(?) to tremble by means
> of it. I will spit on(?) the great ones by means
> of it, it will make me noble in the presence of
> Sirius, it will make me secure in the Mansion of
> Orion*. I ascend and appear as a god, my signs of
> rank are on me, and I will make the lands of the
> Fenkhu impotent through them. I sit on the throne
> within the shrine and make summons to Orion (sAH)
> that he should come to me. O Orion (sAH), come
> and see me! CT 469; V, 390abi; V, 393hm
>
> Chris
>

So tell me, any references to Orion's cult? or is he just known or referenced as a region in the sky?

The conversation is focused on the theological origins of Iwnw, Mr. Cooper believes it to be the circumpolar where as I believe it to be solar... any insight Mr. Tedder on that question?

Best,

BA.Hokom

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