December 29, 2013 04:56PM
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“They didn’t even touch the cartouche. The cartouche was not touched at all. You’re dealing with a scientist here, who wanted to take a very minute—apparently they took 1.5 milligrams of ochre paint, from a graffiti [sic]—you will see the pictures when I send them to you—from a graffiti that he judged being insignificant—he’s absolutely right. There are inscriptions but there are these graffiti that, two lines [hesitation, indistinct] whoever put them there just painted two lines, they really mean nothing.”
Sorry, Robert, but you are not competent to make that determination. Neither is Görlitz.
The character Görlitz damaged with his chisel is a cursive variant of (Gardiner) U23, phonetically
mr and representing pictorially . . . a chisel.
The sequence is
smrw aprw: “(the crew) companions”. It duplcates the sequence which follows the cartouche of Khufu, the sequence in toto being
xwfw smrw aprw: “(the crew) companions of Khufu”. We would naturally infer the presence of a cartouche in this case also, but here it is lost beyond the joint (where the ceiling block meets the vertical).
That, if nothing else, makes it highly significant—and do we not more usually consider any evidence on the builders to be important? Graffiti not excluded, but these inscriptions are
not, strictly speaking, graffiti. They are not informal scribblings, but serve as (actually quite formal) documents of the system within which labour was organised.
“And he scratched 1.5 milligrams, you know you can hardly see the scratch.”
It really is just a very tiny baby.
I can see it, Robert, especially when I compare Görlitz’s “after” with the “before” at
Colette’s page.
It makes the character harder to read. Doubtless this explains your failure to read it at all.
And there is no useful scientific outcome to mitigate the damage.
If every idiot who thought he had cause to sample the paint got to take a sample, there’d be no inscriptions left.
Let’s look at what this “scientist” did:
1) Failed to recognise the limits of his competence.
2) Failed to equip himself with the relevant competence in the first place.
3) Failed to use appropriate tools.
4) Failed to follow the correct protocols.
5) Took a sample which was too small to be dated.
A clueless performance which resulted (as noted) in damage with no mitigating gain.
M.
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