> > and
> > the reports that
> > stones were moved forward a bowshot (300') at
> a
> > time.
>
> Who reported this?
>
> Can you give the citation?

This was reported by Manetho but I don't recall the source. It was
most probably in the list of works with Petrie's T&PE.

> > There are
> > grooves in the center and at quarter way
> distances
> > of these slop-
> > ing sides.
>
> See above.

These can be seen in a few pictures but the only one in my favorites
shows only the center groove well. It's been posted here before. Scroll
down a little for a better shot.

[www.catchpenny.org]

> > These grooves can be explained by the
> > action of count-
> > erweights making many thousands of lifts.
>
>
> Only if you are relying upon friction wearing them
> down. You would lose your rope much sooner than
> your stone.

I don't believe it is friction in the traditional sense of the word but
rather collisions with a massive and speeding sled. These broke the stones
in such a way that they are more easily visible from above. The ropes only
had to make the two ~52 degree turns at the top.

> > It
> > should not be over-
> > looked that the grotto is a natural cavern
> which
> > had to have been
> > carved by water
>
>
> Considering we're talking about a sedimentary
> stone created under the floor of an ocean, the
> grotto could have been millions of years old when
> it was formed. Shaky contention to say it is any
> younger, without the slightest bit of evidence for
> another source of this water.


Caves form in limestone from dissolution near the top of the water
table. The water tends to follow the natural layers in the stone
and run horizontally. This wouldn't have occurred until after the
stone was lifted from the sea in which it formed. This could have
happened hundreds of millions of years ago or much more recently.
A sinkhole 20 miles to the south would suggest the much more recently
scenario since these would fill in by the action of vegetation and
deposition of dust and sand.

> > and that an even larger cavern
> > lies parallel to
> > the north face of the pyramid base.
>
>
> Citation?

I confess I'm not sure. I believe it may have been Perring who reported
this but I'm more sure it was Vyse who excavated it.


> > of this cavern. Even Herodotus said that
> they
> > constructed a canal
> > to Giza
>
> He made no such claim. Please read it again more
> carefully, but this time do it with an
> understanding of Egyptian cosmography. You'll
> realize he was saying something entirely
> different.

" Of this oppression there passed ten years while the causeway was made by which they drew the stones, which causeway they built, and it is a work not much less, as it appears to me, than the pyramid; for the length of it is five furlongs and the breadth ten fathoms and the height, where it is highest, eight fathoms, and it is made of stone smoothed and with figures carved upon it. For this they said, the ten years were spent, and for the underground he caused to be made as sepulchral chambers for himself in an island, having conducted thither a channel from the Nile."




> > and that the ancients were prone to tunnel
> > for water to save
> > the effort of building a canal.
>
> Citation?

I believe this was Manetho as well.




> Anthony





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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.