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May 5, 2024, 2:36 am UTC    
July 25, 2007 04:52AM
Dave L Wrote:
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> Hi Hermione.
>
> The flaw in your argument is that we know what the
> pyramid is and what it was for.
>
There is little doubt that the Great Pyramid is, as all other pyramids in Egypt are, a funerary monument with a symbolic 'function': to act as the agency for the king's soul to join the stars through ritualistic means. The stars involved are the circumpolars in the north and Orion and Sirius/Canis Major in the south. The star-shafts, which are aimed at these stellar destinations, are an integral part of this principal objective.


> The mystagogues who continue to throw doubt on the
> genuine Egyptology are simply confusing the
> reality of what happened in the past, and that
landmark > includes those who are undermining the star
> shafts.

> John Wall was correct to attack aspects of the
> Orion Correlation Theory that are speculative IMO,
> but that does not permit him to undermine factual
> Egyptology in the process. The star shafts are not
> the result of or dependent on Robert's theory, and
> it was understood that this is what they are long
> before the publication of Robert's book. The star
> shafts have been part of the Great Pyramid for 45
> centuries before Robert or John ever picked up a
> pen.

The star-shaft theory regarding the King's Chamber shafts has been in circulation since 1964, with Badawy's and Trimble's publications. I developed that theory with the shafts in the Queen's Chamber in 1987/1990. I received the support for this from I.E.S. Edwards, Jean Kerisel, Mark Lehner and others; and in astronomy from Mary Bruck, Archie roy, Giulio Magli and others. Even my most outspoken crotique Ed Krupp subscribes to the star-shaft theory.

As for John Wall, he has contributed nothing but his own biased attack on this theory. For years, and on level that sometimes bordered on hysteria, he has throw scorn on anything to do with stars and the pyramids. I need not ellaborate on this since many of you are familiar with all this.To put it as nicely as possible, John Wall fell into the same trap as John Legon who, in their obsession to discredit the OCT at all cost, felt they needed to 'destroy' the star-shaft theory.

At any rate, the star-shaft theory does not depend on the OCT; and vice versa. Both can stand alone as much as they can stand together.

>
> As for new information, the people on this site
> know the geography of the Giza plateau and the
> physical details of the Great Pyramids inside out.
> You can see this from the reconstruction made by
> Jon B for example, which is probably one of the
> finest ever done anywhere period. Chris Tedder, an
> architect, has also spent years studying the
> details of the star shafts in minute detail, and
> is familiar with every survey of these features
> ever done.

I agree.

>
> The people on this site also have a great and in
> depth understanding of the various surveys that
> have been carried out, and the written texts from
> the contemporary Old Kingdom Tombs from the time.
> Ritva has a fine understanding of the Old Kingdom
> religion.

Most do. But not all.

>
> John Wall is entitled to publish what he wants. He
> cannot change the facts of the matter though,
> facts with which we are all familiar.
>
> Dave L
>
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