Anthony wrote:

"Actually, the increase in CO2 is helping the recovery of the deforested rain forests. They're growing back much faster than planned, and the result is more plants and more oxygen."

"Much faster"? I doubt it - the actual increase in CO2 is comparitively small, but its effect on a global scale for trapping eat is enormous - at the level of the individual tree its tiny - do you have any figures to support your claim?

Anyway, unfortunately we're still cutting em down a lot faster than they are growing back.




> With renewables you can use as much energy as you
> need, and the atmosphere stays clean.
"Nothing exists in a vacuum."

Agreed, its called an ecosystem.






> Finally, we know the oil is going to run out if
> we keep using it - 20-40 years max,

"Check that figure out. I'll bet you find it isn't as short a timeframe as you imagine. "

Either which way, its gonna run out in our lifetimes, if they reach their normal length.





> so renewables
> will be needed eventually. Nuclear is simply a
> messy, nasty for all eternity, process that we
> don't want.

"Yes, just look at all the people who have died in America and Europe since we started building nuclear power plants."
"Zero."

Er, no, I don't think so....
There were 31 killed at Chernobyl immediately, and the effects of the radiation are still being felt, and is still killing people, as far away as the UK and France.






"But, the current nuclear plants in America produce 20% of the energy ... and save us the equivalent polution of every single car, truck and SUV in the country."

Good, nuclear is better than oil, but not as good as no polution at all.






"And we haven't built a new one in 30 years. How stupid is that?"

Go read about three mile island.






> Wind turbines are the answer -
> offshore, and the bigger the better. Germany has
> 5 prototypes of the new e-112 4.5 MW turbines
> complete - each one provides enough energy for
> 4,200 households.
"Ah yes, the "impact free" energy source.
"Tell me, DaveL... what do you think will be the result of putting huge "windblocks" in the path of the prevailing winds? How will it affect the climate around the world? Energy can't come from nowhere; we must be disrupting some natural process if we are going to tap
it."


It comes from the sun.






"You can claim it will have a negligible effect... but that's the exact same argument that has led to the (supposed) claims of Global Warming."

I think you underestimate the power in the atmosphere: "According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane."!

Dave L

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