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May 2, 2024, 7:23 pm UTC    
March 19, 2005 06:29PM
Ritva Kurittu Wrote:
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> John, measurable neurological effects can not be
> said to be "in the mind". Did you read the article
> of the placebo in the 13 weird things? When they
> blocked the placebo in the form of saline with
> naloxone it did not work... how do you explain
> that?
>
This is an easy one. What you must know is that naloxone was originally used to strip receptors in the brain of opiates in drug addicts. However, the reason why opiates work as analgesics is that humans produce endorphins and enkephalines which react with "opiate" receptors in the brain to control pain. Thus, morphine et al. work against pain because they mimic and bind on the same receptors in the brain as the natural pain killers we produce. Now, a test was made in which dental patients were injected with pure water and told it was novocain. Sure enough, their pain was controlled. The assumption was that the placebo effect generated enkephalins and these controlled the pain. As a test to see if this was true, naloxone was injected, which stripped the receptors of enkephalin and the pain returned.
Bernard


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New Age Remedies Withstand Scientific Scrutiny

Andy March 19, 2005 02:47PM

New Age Remedies DON'T Withstand Scientific Scrutiny

John Wall March 19, 2005 03:10PM

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Katherine Reece March 19, 2005 03:11PM

Found it .......... no memory in water......

Katherine Reece March 19, 2005 03:17PM

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John Wall March 19, 2005 03:17PM

Andy...........

Katherine Reece March 19, 2005 03:16PM

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Andy March 19, 2005 04:11PM

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John Wall March 19, 2005 04:20PM

Moderation Note

Katherine Reece March 19, 2005 04:54PM

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bernard March 19, 2005 06:34PM

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Ritva Kurittu March 19, 2005 06:39PM

On a different note...

Ritva Kurittu March 19, 2005 06:53PM

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bernard March 19, 2005 07:06PM

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