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May 2, 2024, 10:38 pm UTC    
March 16, 2005 02:45PM
MoonDog Wrote:
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> Dave, and all,
>
> I had, (or have) no intention of supporting, or
> opposing the creationism/evolution issues, when I
> posted this topic. I know theory, and law is tied
> together in this, and even in everyday life order
> goes to disorder constantly- things grow older,
> and wear out. Put effort in setting things
> straight, and soon back to disorder, etc, etc.
> That is my quest- why this relentless
> order-to-disorder flow, even in the above
> examples? Why not the 50/50 flow one could expect
> if even a bit of disorder-to-order happens?
>
> Thanx all for your patience
>
> MoonDog
>

With respect to the 2nd law of thermodynamics-- one of the ways to state it is that the tedency of states is toward increasing disorder. As a consequence work is required to maintain or create order. As a sort of analogy think of a group of people going somewhere- if nothing is done, they will all head in that direction in no particular order. If, however you want them all to march there in ordered ranks at a particular pace, you need a drill instructor to do the work of getting them organized to do that. :-).

A second example. If you play the game of passing a message by having a number of people whisper the messageto each other sequentially, you will find that a number of errors creep in, i.e. the tendency is toward disorder (increasing entropy). If it is very important that a message be transmitted accurately (such as orders in war), the massage must be sent several times and/or by different means. Even if errors occur, they won't be the same ones and you can cancel them out. However, doing this involves additional effort (i.e. work).
Bernard





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/16/2005 02:51PM by bernard.
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Chaos to Order??

MoonDog March 15, 2005 10:55PM

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wirelessguru1 March 15, 2005 11:58PM

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MoonDog March 16, 2005 01:01AM

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wirelessguru1 March 16, 2005 03:36AM

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Stephen Tonkin March 16, 2005 03:20AM

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Dave L March 16, 2005 09:14AM

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MoonDog March 16, 2005 12:59PM

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bernard March 16, 2005 02:45PM

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wirelessguru1 March 16, 2005 04:53PM

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MoonDog March 16, 2005 05:52PM

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wirelessguru1 March 16, 2005 06:47PM

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MoonDog March 16, 2005 08:04PM

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wirelessguru1 March 16, 2005 08:23PM

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bernard March 16, 2005 08:46PM

Re: Chaos to Order??

MoonDog March 16, 2005 11:57PM

STORY MOVED......

MoonDog March 21, 2005 04:21PM

Re: STORY MOVED......AGAIN

MoonDog March 21, 2005 09:48PM



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