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May 3, 2024, 2:04 am UTC    
January 02, 2011 11:50AM
Ogygos Wrote:
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> According to this link one of the 50 names of
> Marduk is Niburu.

It's a "Throne Name" (you may not have encountered this in Sumerian studies, but "throne names" are essentially titles of honor (our equivalent would be adding "Colonel" or "General" to someone's name) and not true names. It does not appear in association with Marduk in any other text and appears only as his honorific there to commemorate his actions.

> Also in another wiki link we
> read that:
>
> "The Nibiru constellation rose in the month of
> Tišritum, around autumnal equinox, and Nibiru was
> also a name for the planet Jupiter when observed
> in the month of Tišritum."

Always check Wikipedia's references -- that line doesn't have a reference cited for it. When I look at Michael Sheiser's paper on Nibiru which has the markings for the astrolabe and so forth, none of the sections are named "Tišritum." Further examination of the month of Tišritum shows that its deity is Shamash and not Marduk (Marduk is the deity for October-ish, the next month.)

> What I am saying is that the planet Jupiter was
> Marduk, and that the planetoid Eris was Nibiru.

From Sheiser's paper: [www.michaelsheiser.com]
In the texts that follow, Nibiru was regarded as a planet (specifically, Jupiter, but once as Mercury), a god (specifically, Marduk), and a star (distinguished from Jupiter).

He continues...
This tri-fold (fourfold if you count Mercury) designation for Nibiru is why scholars of cuneiform astronomy have not been able to determine with certainty what exactly Nibiru is. We’ll go into the problem more in later sections. One thing is certain from the texts, though: Nibiru is NEVER identified as a planet beyond Pluto.

In fact, the text on Astrolabe B cited in the PDF above (along with the transliteration of the cuneiform so you can check it) could indicate Mars or Antares or another red star.

References 14 and 15 could also refer to the point at which (from the Earth's view) a planet "stalls" in its progress and then "turns retrograde."

> Jupiter in certain circumstances might have been
> called Nibiru due to the meaning of Nibiru - the
> crossing, also another reason you might not be
> aware of.

Yes, I was aware of that... and also of the issue above; that Nibiru is used for a lot of things and is not used consistently for one particular thing.

> One Eris(Nibiru) year is exactly equal to 47
> Jupiter years. This is why we find Jupiter popping
> up all over Nibiru alignments. Take for example
> the 1978 alignment. Jupiter is right next to the
> Sun at Noon.

I'm afraid that doesn't really make any sense (for one thing, Jupiter is "right next to the sun at noon" every single year.)

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