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Anthony
December 31, 2002 05:47AM
<HTML>Steven Myers wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I thank everyone for their interest in the research of our
> foundation.



We're far more interested in why YOU think your foundation is doing ANYTHING worthwhile with its time and resources. So far, you've shown nothing.





>
> Answer: Our research organization is interested in the
> construction methods of the original builders in constructing
> the Great Pyramid. Since you asked, Yes we do take
> donations. We also are funding a research scholarship to
> help bring to light the methods used to quarry and move the
> stones of the Great Pyramid.


Then how do you expect to learn anything about them by STARTING with the false premise that a tomb was a machine?

Pseudoscience. Pure and simple. If you want to learn how to build a pyramid... READ. IF you want to learn how to build a pump, I suggest you ask Stephen Tonkin... he seems to have more basic knowledge of the field than everyone in your foundation <i>combined</i>.





>
> We want to see how moving the stones was accomplished. If
> anyone or group can quarry, move and set in place 5 casing
> stones as traditional Egyptologists say it was done we will
> award that person or group $50,000. \\




I've looked at your offer, and the reason nobody "bites" is because it will COST more than $50,000 to SET UP and conduct the experiment! Pretty safe bet on your part: "I'll give $20 to the first person who gives me $30!"

Bogus "wag the dog" kind of marketing.













> >
> Answer: Our focus is on not who and when but how and why.

You cannot ANSWER "how and why" until you KNOW "WHO"!

Again, pure pseudoscience. You can invent all the methods you WANT to explain how it COULD have been done.. but until you buckle down and examine the archaeological EVIDENCE, all your ideas aren't worth bupkiss.

Trust me on that one. It's a personal area of interest.




> it has not been demonstrated in the last
> 200 years how a full size casing stone was quarried to great
> precision by hand and moved to it's final resting place.
> This is what has prompted our research organization to offer
> our $50,000 research scholarship. We want to *see* this
> activity accomplished. I hope people on this message board
> would have the same interest.


Damn skippy it hasn't been demonstrated... mostly because we don't have stonemasons with 500 years of historical experience with stone pounders and copper chisels loitering around looking for something to do during Christmas Vacation.

It would take DECADES of PRACTICE to relearn the simple tricks of the trade.

I give you this SIMPLE example... (consider it a rewording of your OWN generous offer)

<blockquote>In has not been demonstrated in the last 200 days how a group of fifty people can come together and play MUSIC in great precision as an orchestra. This is what has prompted our $50 research scholarship. We want to "see" this activity accomplished.</blockquote>

Yet I'm pretty sure there are groups of 50 people who play musical instruments together... you simply can't take people off the street and get them to do it in a day, a week, or even a year. Again, bogus offer.

> >
> Answer: Who and when the Great Pyramid was built is
> currently under great debate and beyond the scope of our
> research.

Obviously it is "beyond the scope of your research" because if you HAD done even the SIMPLEST research, you would KNOW that there <b>IS NO SUCH GREAT DEBATE!</b> Your assertion that it IS being debated displays one of the common tactics of bogus pseudoscientists worldwide...the false claim of mystery, so that the floodgates of speculation can be opened.

Nothing infuriates me more than to see ignorant people proclaiming falsehoods as facts. Research is cheap. Try it before you wander out and make an idiot of yourself again with such blatantly ignorant comments.



It is interesting that hardly any of the pivotal
> tasks needed to build the great pyramid have been
> demonstrated. It has not been shown ancient man or modern
> man can replicate the components or procedures necessary to
> build the Great Pyramid as described by traditional
> Egyptologists.

Hey... am I a traditional Egyptologist? I've been published in KMT magazine... does that mean that should I ALTER the ramp theory a bit to make it work, your offer of $50,000 is NULL AND VOID???

I'll bet it does. Yup. More "wag the dog" marketing.




I do know this: MODERN Egyptians use the high
> Aswan dam, the largest structure in the Nile valley to pump
> water!!!! This dam is called the fourth pyramid and is used
> for a large irrigation project. Go to:
> [www.metimes.com]
> This link is called:
> Building the next great pyramid by
> Paul Schemm Middle East Times Staff

Well, I guess that is the best evidence yet. Use a modern newspaper headline to prove that a 4500 year old artifact was a piece of machinery.

You really are a piece of work. How much do they pay you to handle their publicity?



>
> 2. Or are you suggesting, that this pump was build by a LC
> and the Egyptians didn't know how to use it?
>
> Answer: I have no suggestions as to who built the Great
> Pyramid but the answer to that question is very easy.
> The original builders were able to do everything it took to
> build the Great Pyramid. That is why we are offering our
> scholarship. We want to fund the demonstration which will
> show what the traditional Egyptologists tell us is true. The
> demonstration will provide verification for the explanations
> we have all read. Again, the link for the $50,000 research
> scholarship is:
> [www.thepump.org]


Gosh, Mr. Troll... can you provide that email address just ONE MORE TIME???? I think I missed it the first FIVE TIMES.

<i>Trolling, trolling, o'er the bounding main...</i>








>
> Thank you ALL for your open minded interest.

You're welcome. Now let's see YOU return the favor by opening your mind the fact that your entire premise is false, your methodology is irrepairably flawed, and as a result, your conclusions are utterly worthless.

Oh wait... then you won't get your paycheck as the chief marketing guy...

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Subject Author Posted

Great Pyramid Water Pump

Steven Myers December 29, 2002 01:12AM

The Flushomatic GP.

Don Holeman December 29, 2002 10:45AM

Re: The Flushomatic GP.

Stephen Tonkin December 29, 2002 05:08PM

PS

Stephen Tonkin December 29, 2002 05:13PM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Chris Tedder December 29, 2002 10:52AM

Cistern Chapel revisited

Warwick December 29, 2002 11:59AM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Warwick December 29, 2002 12:32PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Ritva December 29, 2002 12:48PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Bent December 29, 2002 01:18PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Ritva December 29, 2002 01:24PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Bent December 29, 2002 01:48PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Ritva December 29, 2002 03:27PM

OK

Bent December 29, 2002 03:30PM

Everything goes in cycles

Atlantida December 31, 2002 10:14AM

Cute...

Anthony December 31, 2002 10:35AM

Wait a minute...

Anthony December 31, 2002 10:36AM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Mikey Brass December 29, 2002 01:40PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Bent December 29, 2002 02:30PM

BTW Mikey

Bent December 29, 2002 02:47PM

Re: BTW Mikey

Mikey Brass December 29, 2002 07:55PM

Re: Cistern Chapel revisited

Mikey Brass December 29, 2002 07:52PM

thanks for mentioning the pump

Jim Lewandowski December 29, 2002 12:16PM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Pete Vanderzwet December 29, 2002 02:10PM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Steven Myers December 29, 2002 08:03PM

Are you serious?????

Anthony December 30, 2002 08:30AM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Chris Tedder December 30, 2002 09:12AM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Anthony December 30, 2002 09:41AM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Stephen Tonkin December 30, 2002 03:31PM

Dear Mr Myers...

Ritva December 30, 2002 02:04PM

Re: Dear Mr Myers...

Warwick December 30, 2002 02:11PM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Steven Myers December 30, 2002 10:16PM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Don Holeman December 30, 2002 11:11PM

Re: Great Pyramid Water Pump

Stephen Tonkin December 31, 2002 02:41AM

Don't give them any ideas, Stephen!

Anthony December 31, 2002 05:28AM

Bullfeathers.

Anthony December 31, 2002 05:47AM

Re: Bullfeathers.

Stephen Tonkin December 31, 2002 07:23AM

My bad....

Anthony December 31, 2002 08:42AM

Re: Wait a minute...

Steven Myers January 06, 2003 03:51PM

Re: Wait a minute...

Stephen Tonkin January 06, 2003 11:29PM



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