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jameske
September 13, 2001 05:12PM
<HTML>Garrett,

I am amazed at how many people so fascinated with the past have suddenly become so anti-historical. It is as though history has nothing to do with where we are now. History is often used as jusitification. Indeed, if the perpetrators of this recent tragedy are to be dealt with it will be because the history of the 11th of September will call for justice. How far do we go back? Well you don't really need to go farther back than WW2. Events from then provide enough for material for the hatred that is going around the world today.


[There is actually very little hatred between protestants and catholics - the catholic and protestant middle and upper classes share a great deal of common ground in terms of opinions and attitudes towards the political state of N.Ireland. Indeed, it was them that carried the Peace Process. The real divide actually exists in the working classes. They hate each other. They come from deprived areas of high unemployment like the Falls or the Shankill. They compete for rubbish low paid jobs. They define themselves not by the acquisition of goods like the materialist middle and upper classes but by flags and sentiments.

The 'Celtic Tiger' is nothing of the sort. It is a veneer that has been subsidised by the EU - take away the subsidies and the economy runs down. Interestingly enough, Ireland recently brought a veto against expansion of the EU - the reason being that expansion would take the focus away from the poorer countries already in the EU such as itself, and towards Poland, the Czech Republic. There is nothing like enlightened self interest.]</HTML>
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Why America?

Derek Barnett September 13, 2001 12:49PM

Re: Why America?

Katherine Reece September 13, 2001 01:26PM

Re: Why America?

Anthony September 13, 2001 02:08PM

Re: Why America?

Derek Barnett September 13, 2001 02:45PM

Re: Why America?

William T. September 14, 2001 07:39AM

Re: Why America?

Garrett Fagan September 13, 2001 03:22PM

Re: Why America?

Anthony September 13, 2001 03:30PM

Re: Why America?

Claire September 13, 2001 03:44PM

Re: Why America?

Anonymous User September 14, 2001 04:39AM

Re: Why America?

ISHMAEL September 14, 2001 11:24AM

Ishmael - SHUT UP!

Claire September 14, 2001 12:57PM

Re: Ishmael - SHUT UP!

ISHMAEL September 14, 2001 02:11PM

Re: I should shut up too

Claire September 14, 2001 02:17PM

Re: Why America?

jameske September 13, 2001 05:12PM

Re: Very Well Said Garrett

William T. September 14, 2001 07:48AM



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