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May 8, 2024, 3:38 pm UTC    
December 13, 2012 04:43PM
bernard Wrote:
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> The fundamental problem with this whole thing is
> that there was NO Maya calendar in either 2720 or
> 1142. The Long Count calendar dates to about
> 400-300 BC.
>
> Bernard
>

Actually, we don't know this absolutely. All we know is there are no long count dates carved in stone before this time. There still could have been a long count calendar recorded in books or on wood now lost to decay, etc. I'm sure long before the Olmec were carving stone monuments they were carving in wood but unfortunately those haven't survived (except in a few very rare instances.)

Second, I think you've misunderstood Mike's hypothesis. He's not saying there was a long count calendar in either 2720 or 1142 BC. He's saying that a count of days was initiated in 2720 BC in response to a possible impact event. After a similar event in 1142 BC some "day keeper" noticed it had been a specific number of days between the two events. And from this, Mike argues, they performed the calculations that resulted in the creation of the long count calendar.

In other words, he's saying the long count calendar was created AFTER 1142 BC not before. Since current scholarship accepts 400 BC as the earliest birth of the long count calendar, moving it 700 years earlier doesn't really require a huge leap of faith. Seems within the realm of possibility...we just don't have the physical evidence to prove it. That can all change in one field season. Scholars used to argue the Mayan flood myth was borrowed from their Christian conquerors...and then they found the inscriptions in Temple XIX at Palenque which proved the Mayan flood myth dated back to at least 700 AD.






Gary Daniels
Author, "Mayan Calendar Prophecies: Predictions for 2012-2052"
Creator, LostWorlds.org, TheRealMayanProphecies.com
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