July 19, 2011 01:03PM
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Holy batman.
Since when is opinion fact? The evidence for pre-columbian stinks? Maybe. But right now THAT so called post columbus evidence is truly suspect.
1. Hibbin falsified or salted the findings. Pre-clovis destruction was rampant in the 30's THAT alone would negate any claim he salted the site. There is NO professional credibility to he doing such a thing. Hibbin may have been wrong in his analysis but denigerating his reputation with claims of fraud to prove it disgusting.
2. Christian syntax in the writing (byrd) not so.
3. Comparative analysis to a stone in Israel a non starter. That is to suggest that someone could have had knowledge to create the stone. I will go a step further. There were many that could have had the knowledge. That anyone of them was in the wilds of New Mexico carefully crafting a stone with the same knowledge. it is just as unlikely as a phonecian or a jew doing the same pre-columbus. yet the stone exists.
4. For your information pre-clovis was not somewhat controversial. it was the kiss of death career wise. It still exists. And any claim made professionally by any academic regarding pre-clovis is automatically discardable.
5. Salting exists but not all pre-clovis sites are salted and controversal. ONLY in the minds of the gatekeepers is that the claim of last resort.
6. I agree wholeheartedly that phonecians in New mexico is truly a stretch. It doesn't fit with what we know about capabilities of the time or reasons. I have seen enough though to say it need reinvestigation with a post clovis transparency. You may turn out to be right but you are NOT right now. No way no how.
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