July 15, 2011 03:23PM
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This is what is called a standoff. No problem.
And I do consider fraud as a possibility. Not as the ace in the hole fireman whenever the possible story is unthinkable.
1. This stone is unmoved whenever.
2. It has very clear writing that is decipherable.
3. The majority consensus is that it is paleo-hebrew.
4. It is translateable. The majority consensus is that it is about a paleo-hebrew rendition of the ten commandments.
5. There are other petroglyphs around it but it is undetermined at this point if they are related.
6. there is surrounding context in the form of ruins that may be related to it.
Then there is the Hibben claims. These have been rendered moot by supposed less than reliable and/or actual fraud at 2 DIFFERENT sites. The view being if those are in question then THIS site is in question. Convenient.
two possible scenarios here.
A)
1. Sometime AFTER Columbus some group or an individual before 1930 came to this site. With a LOT of time on their hands they managed to write in good enough accurate a paleo-hebrew inscription of serious complexity the ten commandments known in paleo-hebrew times.
2. This chiseling or whatever would have been done at an angle the stone is at now. It is the consensus that the workmanship was NOT that of a casual stone chipper.
1. This stone was carved pre-columbus by an individual probably paleo-hebrew in origin.
2. Someone pre-columbus was here and no kilroy.
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