January 16, 2007 12:24PM
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I wouldn't equate evolution with history Rebby, and i don't think a lot of people do. They are two very different things...evolution by itself and as a theory does not seek to teach people prehistory...that is in fact paleontology, and even paleontology does not deal with abstract historical details....the study of how or if a dinosaurs goes to the toilet is not the same as the study of it going to the toilet...that is history, yet it cannot be proved and is not falsifiable....
I'm not sure if i'm agreeing with barry in this debate...but i do not consider history a science and i do not consider archaeology to be the science of history...In many cases history does not have and more importantly does not require archaeological verification...it's more supportive as opposed to limiting....There's also no such thing as historical laws...The idea is helpful for drawing analogies and historical and anthropoligical processes, but that's equivalent to considering Marxism scientific, an idea long rejected by Karl Popper....
History makes use of the social sciences to tell us whether a certain history was probable...explicit evidence of this history is not required and does not exist. Quite simply if we look at the archaeological evidence we could easily dismiss ideas that certain civilisations existed and flourish....The evidence that we have to hand simply does not represent this...You should also consider historical people...Scientifically, not only Jesus, but Alexander the Great, Hannibal etc. etc. did not exist...They all could've been made up, and indeed people have claimed this to be the case for Jesus...This of course is entirely equivalent to saying that the only dinosaurs which existed are those for which we have the fossils....Archaeology and paleontology talks about the physical evidence of existences not histories for which there's usually no evidence....
History does employ the scientific method, yet does not claim to be a science. Historians have long considered and have written about this relationship with science....It's a kind of philosophy that historians deal with....An indication of this is the number of interpretations of any given history....much more numerous than the scientific theories.....Indeed one wouldn't believe the number of realities offered by history...
Sorry, that was in a bit of a hurry. I hope it makes sense...
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2007 12:32PM by darkuser.
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