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I am sorry to hear about your loss, Tom. And our loss as well. Because Lee was loved and respected here, and he will be very greatly missed.
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Retiring next year? HALLELOUJAH!!!!!
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Just running through, but can't log off without spilling my two cents worth.
It's sad to see that Hawass is at it again. I'll skip all the rude comments I have concerning him and Egyptology in general since he took over... the main reason I have been completely turned off on the subject.
Andrew and Nigel, way to go! Whatever happens, keep up the good work.
And Greg... ..
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Chris,
I agree with every word you say here.
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Hi Rick,
With your "you don't have to ask me that question", do you mean that you agree with cladking and find the study of the PTs to be a waste of time?
Also, you have repeatedly written on this board, that we have no clue about what the PTs mean. I am glad to see that you have modified the wording to "we only have a faint understanding of what they (the PTs) mean"
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And where would the mummy and the four jars be if not somewhere that was "intended for the ascension of the king"?
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Sure. One question, though: what do you understand by "ascension", and where or from what state of being does this "ascension" start?
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It appears in article form in "Grab und Totenkult im Alten Ägypten" (H. Guksch et alii) and is titled "Drei Leben nach dem Tod. Wieviel Seelen hatten die Alten Ägypter?"
And before you ask, no, unfortunately I don't have it myself. Still working on getting the original, though.
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Hi Rick,
> On a different but similar note that's exactly why
> I take umbrage with theory that tombs had to be
> left "unfinished" as this might cause the king to
> die prematurely if it was finished. I mean look at
> KV 55 It was a guy buried in a womans sarcophagus
> with Kiya's canopic jars and a lot of the stuff
> just stacked around the
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Hi Jammer,
> And this would have been of great concern to the
> AE.
You know, I am not sure about this. They went to great lengths in re-burying and re-sealing the tombs, but it does seem that as long as it could be called a burial it was OK (I mean all right, not Old Kingdom, heheh). In other words, the goods or broken furnishings didn't really matter in some cases, and then
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Hi Rick,
Yes, Djehutymose seems to have tidied the place after the second robbery, where the robbers very probably were taken with their hand in the sack, so to speak. Djehutymose must have apprehended one of the robbers and taken the linen bundle with the solid gold rings, which he casually just tossed in one of the boxes. He also seems to have tidied somewhat by means of putting lids on boxe
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There is no doubt the tomb was robbed, because the tag written by the necropolis guard during Horemheb's reign tells us so.
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Hi Don,
I have now read all of your responses, but prefer to answer on this one it being the first (and admittedly also the lack of interest in riposting to all of them, heheh). As far as I can see, you have completely misunderstood what I wrote. I don't know whether you misinterpret my words on purpose to ease things for yourself, or whether you have no clue about what I am talking about
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Hi again Don
I am troubled to notice, that your question, again, says it all. Still, at the same time it gives a beautiful example of what I wrote above. Thank you for that.
Had you studied AE as some of us have (and the Egyptologists even more due to opportunities the laypeople do not have access to, unfortunately!!) you wouldn't be asking me about a paper on AE geometry. You'd
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Hi Don
I'm sorry to notice that your very question at the beginning of this thread reveals the fact that your knowledge of the EA culture and ideology is lacking severely.I do know that your knowledge of geometry (and maths in general) is very good indeed. However, the AEs had a very, as far as modern thinking is concerned, baffling way to look and understand things, and as long as you a
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Hello Rick,
Isn't it nice how we both kinda know!
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> I prefer Faulker too, I think he's the poet of
> Egytpology. But I've also read that people who
> have read Faulkner's translation and the original
> text say they are completely different. Again who
> knows. However his PT's are fatally flawed because
> he leaves out the king
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Hi Rick,
Yes, I kinda know you know.
What we should never forget is the fact, that parts (huge parts even) of all history is somebody's intrepretation of the existing archaeological evidence. While there are moments where only one plausible intrepretation is possible, a consensus is reached, but the differences in interpretations cause "squabbling". I don't honestly thi
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*LOL*
To be honest, the king's Ka did not really need directions to actually go out or from left to right. The texts around the tomb paint an image of the cosmos and simply show the direction to north as well as giving a hint of what one should be looking for there.
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Hi
Poking my nose where it shouldn't be, but.... I think the answer is rather obvious. As Anthony is suggesting, one should very probably read "west" in the texts as "right" and "east" as "left"- Following this logic the texts simply tell Pepi's spirit (after all, the texts is written for him, remember!) to take the ascending corridor towards
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The pCarlsberg I and Ia deal with cosmology and the decanal system as seen on the ceilings of Seti I and Ramesses IV. Neugebauer's EAT has the full account of those.
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Hi BA,
> In my view the wall is a composite of many ritual
> motifs, each seems to be happening in each course
> level, ie within the height of a course. Its all
> bits and pieces but what I can make out appears to
> be the ascension, the top of the 5th course seems
> to be the east horizon. Everything below this
> horizon to the left of the Niche depicts what
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Hi Lee,
I agree with your scepticism about the dating of the images. However, if the images are what BA is suggesting them to be, I don't find the image of an elephant all that surprising. If memrory serves, there are several rock carvings depicting elephants and we do know that at least Djedefre and Khufu were actively sending expeditions to both deserts. Picturing one of the beasts in a
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Hi BA,
This is very interesting indeed.
In your posting you said that you can't reveal too much about the article, and that is fully understandable, but there is something I need to ask. Here you show us just occasional patterns that could be images or not. In your article, can you point out any overall design in the patterns, such as wildlife represented here, offering formulae there et
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And I so agree. For a short while they actually fly! Beautiful!
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Nah, Ra sends his eye, Hathor, to slaughter the humankind. She becomes the bloodthirsty Sekhmet and only becomes the gentle Hathor again when drunk. Heheh.
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Is the above story from a spy-satellite-book?
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Hi Rick,
I don't quite agree with us not having a clue of what the Eye of Horus means. We certainly do know a few of it's meanings in various contexts. But I agree with you about us not knowing them all and very probably even missing aspects of those we do know.
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