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It's almost Christmas here in the UK and I'm off to bed. Merry Christmas everyone. And -- I've had to do too much editing on this thread. If in the morning there are still more unacceptable posts from the same people the easiest thing for me to do will be just to hide/delete everything by those posters without bothering to look at the content. Rough and ready but I don't inby DougWeller - Ancient History
Uh, Don, I'm afraid you shouldn't expect to find much for November 2003. Sorry. Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
Duncan Craig Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > darkuser Wrote: Chinese > > pyramids were of a very small scale and, > despite > > sinocentric claims, monumental architecture > was > > practically non-existent. . > > > >This simply isn't true, sinocentrically or > otherwise. The First Emperors tomb complex haby DougWeller - Ancient History
donald raab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Doug, > > Like Zimbawe. The natives couldn't do it and they > just had to be very recent. 1900's archaeology > orthodoxy. Not like Zimbabwe. That was always thought to be AD. But yes, archaeology a century ago. Proto-archaeology, more or less. So what? Things have moved on dramatiby DougWeller - Ancient History
donald raab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Time for the BIG picture. > > This NEW WORLD civilized site is in the SAME time > frame of the OLD WORLD sites in mesopotamia and > Egypt. They are NOT far removed to the future. > > Obviously orthodox OLD WORLD/NEW WORLD > descriptions are no lomger operative. They were > concurrby DougWeller - Ancient History
darkuser Wrote: > It depends on which period you're talking about. > The idea that Minoan culture developed > spontaneously as a result of Egyptian influence > has been dismissed. We now know that the formative > period goes all the way back to and before the > third millenium, and the palaces were precedented > on the island. What did you mean by decentralised?by DougWeller - Ancient History
I'm using Firefox right now for Ma'at, although I hadn't thought of blocking images. Thanks Sue! I also use Opera 7.54, and Avant (an IE shell). Each has their advantages. I use the sessionsaver plugin with Firefox because I like to keep quite a few windows open all the time. And the A9 toolbar which gives me a discount on Amazon purchases! Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
9 miles off. Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
Joanne Wrote: > You Brits always seem to confuse Halloween with > winter solstice -- wassailing now when you should > have been trick-or-treating earlier in the year. > Did they have drums in ancient Britain -- real > drums you really dance to that way? I always > imagine those little tambouriney medieval drums. > Halloween is getting pretty big in the UK, the sby DougWeller - Ancient History
darkuser Wrote: > > Also, there's no reason to limit comparisons to > the two. One civilisation i'm particularly > interested in is that of China. Chinese > "civilisation" has long been strictly confined to > the second millenium BC, a date solely based on > the bronze age and the earliest writing. This is > obviously too strict a definition giby DougWeller - Ancient History
RickB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had heard that "California" was named after one > of the queens of the Amazon. So since I started > reading this string I did a google search and > found this on the supposed etymology of my home > state California > > > "....The book, called The Exploits of the Very > Pby DougWeller - Ancient History
Michael Witzel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, if one does not want to register with > SCIENCE, there is a shortcut, in this case. The > vociferous Indian amateur in archaeology, Dr. > S.Kalyanaraman, has posted the longer part of > Lawler's paper in Science in his > ('patriotic'/chauvinistic) 'Indian Civilizationby DougWeller - Ancient History
Dave L Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yep... > > Dare I say it almost looks like a map.... Which is what is being suggested (depiction of the landscape), but that is speculation. > > Bronze age, so anywhere pre say 200BC? when did > the Iron age start in Britain? > Around the 8th century bce. Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
Thanks Pete, well said. Have you read Clive Ruggles? I'm about to go out for a wedding anniversay lunch, followed by agility training with our dogs, but when I have time I'll look at what he says about alignments. They certainly are not all accidental. Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
teacup Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks, Doug ! Very interesting. > > One note: > > While the paper's abstract focuses upon a > discussion of the region from northern Africa to > Mesopotamia, I think it worth re-itererating that > evidence indicates the mid-Holocene climatic > change, c. 5200 years ago, was world-by DougWeller - Ancient History
Anthony Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DougWeller Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > No more > > general comments about methodology from > anyone, > > please. > > > \ > > > 1. They are ignoring the textual/contextual > evidence for the introduction and evoluby DougWeller - Ancient History
Alex S Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello Anthony, > > You write: "You are arguing for a different > conclusion by ignoring evidence. > It's flawed methodology. It's a non-starter. You > may be entitled to your own opinion, but you're > not entitled to your own facts. > Until you understand the nature of theby DougWeller - Ancient History
I thought I'd post this as a new thread so we can concentrate on the scientific aspects. This mechanism, unlike a comet strike, allows for the variation of dates that has been noted. Beyond collapse: the role of climatic desiccation in the emergence of complex societies in the middle Holocene by Brooks, Nick Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research and School of Environmental Sciby DougWeller - Ancient History
Hi Duncan, I'm not going to dismiss something geological/meterological happening around this time that impacted on at least some human cultures, but I don't think Joseph Campbell is a suitable source here. But I'm not dismissing what he says, just saying I need a better source (and Uruk B is not current nomenclature I believe. And I've found a better source.by DougWeller - Ancient History
John Wall Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps you'd care to re-read your original post > and note that you were talking about megaliths - > they weren't first started at Stonehenge until > many centuries later than 3000BC - and about 1000 > years after the first megaliths on Malta. > Actually to be fair he was talking aboutby DougWeller - Ancient History
AWSX Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Probably these guys > > Homo heidelbergensis from here > > o_heidelbergensis.shtml?img2 > > Doug, > Are you referring to those spears from > Solengen(sp?), Germany? The last I heard they were > dated at about 400,000 years, has that changed? Yes, sorry, the Schöningen spears are inby DougWeller - Ancient History
donald raab Wrote: > > I have always believed that all men are > essentially equal. Also that there isn't too much > new under the sun. Given that I find it rather > foolish to think all of these large building > efforts were for nothing more than dancing > ceremonies or burying the dead. Each age and > civilization had purpose in mind. Dancing ceremoby DougWeller - Ancient History
Stonehenge's first phase is in fact about 5000 years old. Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
donald raab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I thought modern man entered Europe around 50K. > Who is the maker of this axe. Are you under the impression that only HSS made tools? Remember the 300,000 year old spears, for instance. > And a report in a journal a couple of years ago of > a wooden boomerang 800k in Poland. Er, I think you meanby DougWeller - Ancient History
I'm jealous of my niece who is studying musical drama in New York -- she'll be able to see this! Last week I went down to London to see her playing Helena in All's Well that Ends Well at RADA where she is this term (well, she was one of the 3 people playing the part, it was great!). Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
Just to confuse things, look up Bruce Masse and his argument for a catastrophic comet strike in 2807 bce. imorf Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just read "Uriel's Machine". Its authors claim a > comet hit the Mediterranean circa 3150BC. This is > the backbone for their theories on > biblical/sumerian writings etc. > >by DougWeller - Ancient History
Ok, I don't see how this thread can stop being political, so.... Dougby DougWeller - Ancient History
donald raab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. The Grand pyramid- Tikal Guatemala > 2. The pyramid of the jaguar- Tikal Guatemala > 3. The entire site- Tollum Mexico > 4. The main plaza- Seibal Guatemala > 5. The entire site- Cahal Pech Belize > 6. The main plaza- Carakol Belize > 7. The ball court- Chichen Itza mexico > > Anby DougWeller - Ancient History
wirelessguru1 Wrote: > > Just wait til the Earth magnetic poles shift and > then you will see something with substance... The earth's magnetic poles are constantly moving, and science tells us about reversals in the past. There is nothing new or surprising about this, and you haven't added anything of substance by telling us something we already know - in fact, you'by DougWeller - Ancient History
wirelessguru1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > And what does your answer have to do with > changes being distributed evenly > > over time? Nothing, so far as I can see. > > Obviously you can't see it! Because it apparently isn't there. > > For example, in an explosion, everything can > change within an instby DougWeller - Ancient History