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September 10, 2010 11:31AM
Jammer Wrote:
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> <concurs with Warwick on that!>
>
> My field is mechanical & civil engineering.
> I feel it's a science, true scientists might argue
> it's a more closed-ended-mathematical-specialty.
> Engineering is rarely done for the pleasure of
> discovery, which many of the mainstream sciences
> are, so they may well be right.

Being a camp follower of engineering, IMHO engineering stands as the exact center of pure and applied science. If you want to build a state of the art bridge you have to use the latest insights in math, materials, statics, mechanics, etc. It can be dangerous after all look at all the buildings that have collapsed, the dams that have burst, cars that have crashed etc. The flip side is that we're still here and going strong.
>
> I have a very thorough background in my field, and
> am well enough known for certain types of
> projects, to get called in as a special expert for
> ranges up to 200 miles.
>
> I might have a flash of insight a 1/2" tungsten
> wrapped cable could support a weight under stress
> that previously took a 1.5" steel wrapped cable.
> In fact, I could probably do the math in my head
> to be somewhat certain the guess is accurate.
>
> BUT if I have a catwalk hung people actually use,
> based on that guess, and without doing a bunch of
> confirmation physical tests, I might be an
> "insightful engineer", but I'd also be an idiot.
>
>
> Would YOU want to walk on a catwalk my gut told me
> would hold up fine?

Again that depends on the cirucmstances, if I'm trapped in a burning building and the only way out is to follow your gut instinct that the tungsten wrapped cable will hold the elevator vs. my total ignorance of the tensile strength of tungsten wrapped cable I'll go with your gut feeling, though from experience I think I would prefer a titanium cable. If on the other hand the building was just fine and the elevator was out of order, and you were feeling under the weather and making your best guesstimate using Finagle's variable fudge fact and weren't sure whether to use tungsten or steel wrapped cable, I would probably just take the stairs until you ran the numbers and got the right answer. smiling smiley
>
Subject Author Posted

Which approach to Science do you favor?

Jammer September 08, 2010 10:31AM

Re: Which approach to Science do you favor?

Warwick L Nixon September 08, 2010 10:37AM

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Rick Baudé September 08, 2010 11:46AM

Which approach to Science do you favor?

Jammer September 08, 2010 02:07PM

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Jammer September 08, 2010 05:09PM

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Re: Which approach to Science do you favor?

Jammer September 08, 2010 05:14PM

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Re: Which approach to Science do you favor?

Jammer September 09, 2010 05:20AM

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cladking September 09, 2010 10:58AM

Re: Which approach to Science do you favor?

Warwick L Nixon September 09, 2010 11:31AM

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cladking September 09, 2010 03:45PM

Re: Which approach to Science do you favor?

Warwick L Nixon September 10, 2010 10:22AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 09, 2010 10:38AM

I apologize to the other Ma'at posters

Jammer September 09, 2010 05:22AM

Re: I apologize to the other Ma'at posters

sansahansan September 09, 2010 08:17AM

Intuition thoughts

Jammer September 09, 2010 10:39AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 10, 2010 10:33AM

Intuition thoughts

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Khazar-khum September 10, 2010 03:27PM

Re: I apologize to the other Ma'at posters

cladking September 09, 2010 11:04AM

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cladking September 09, 2010 11:08AM

Speaking as a (real) scientist...

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The Question

Warwick L Nixon September 13, 2010 11:23AM

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Jammer September 16, 2010 03:41PM

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Rick Baudé September 17, 2010 12:14AM

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Rick Baudé September 17, 2010 03:19PM

Aha

Warwick L Nixon September 17, 2010 08:57PM

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Rich September 17, 2010 12:03PM

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Rick Baudé September 17, 2010 01:08PM

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cladking September 16, 2010 05:45PM

cause and effect

Warwick L Nixon September 17, 2010 02:57PM

Scientific process

sansahansan September 21, 2010 11:01AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 21, 2010 11:42AM

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sansahansan September 21, 2010 02:43PM

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Rich September 21, 2010 03:11PM

On your subject of MSG

sansahansan September 22, 2010 08:54AM

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Warwick L Nixon September 22, 2010 10:26AM

Re: On your subject of MSG

sansahansan September 22, 2010 11:57AM

sodium nitrite is worse.

cladking September 22, 2010 07:21PM

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