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May 3, 2024, 11:35 am UTC    
June 16, 2010 03:47PM
sansahansan Wrote:
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> Are these personal interpretations/opinions or are
> there majority agreed/consensus interpretations?
> In other words, do I take this as your belief or
> as some 'agreed upon' or peer reviewed
> psuedo-fact?

This is material derived from a literal reading of the PT and various unrelated evidence. So far as I know there is very little agreement with any of my ideas and No one with any expertise has agreed with more than minor tangental points.


> > I'm not sure people are ready for all this
> >here.


> I'm not sure what you mean, so I've taken two
> possible conclusions here...
>
> People here have shown themselves generally
> capable of critical thinking and logical thought
> processes.

Yes. Essentially this is exactly the problem. The people here are very knowledgeable and very orthodox. They are simply not ready for some of the far out ideas that come from believing the ancients meant almost everything literally and the farther out implications of these concepts.

Indeed, they haven't even accepted what I consider obvious; that the pyramids were built with counterweights. It's pretty tough getting to unbelievable material under these conditions. I would point out that there is some possibility that the ancients were mistaken but They certainly seem to have believed some pretty far out ideas.

> I cannot comment on their ability to openly
> speculate with solidity of foundational precepts
> to speculate from - that's not what this forum is
> about, so it doesn't tend to come up often.
> Personally, I love AlternateHistory.Com
>

Thank you. I might check it out.

I would say though that my primary interest is in a real determination of how G1 was built and this other stuff is just peeking ahead a little in case I happen to be right.
>
> Really? Name 'em. I'd love to research them.
> Consider me enthusiastic about finding new
> resources to research

There's probably not a lot here you haven't seen then but it will give you an idea of what I'm talking about;

[www.unexplained-mysteries.com]

If you follow the links and do a little googling you'll see a lot of what I've found on the net. You'll need to get very familiar with the Egfyptian fig sycamore since it is key to understanding all this material from a literal standpoint. It carries right on over into the Bible and there are extensive references and clues in the PT about this tree and its fruit. It was more than just the tree that was used to make a djed to aim the water for pyramid building.

>
> Ah... I think that's either ad hominem en masse, or at least a topic for a seperate debate?

I simply don't understand the apparent reluctance of people to consider a literal interpretation. I believe it likely is because I've stated that there is only a single possible one and they find this particular one to be absurd. I think it's galling to people with such vast expertise to have someone throwing the words of the PT in their face and this goes double since it's a relative beginner who eschews orthodox opinion doing it.

I don't necessarily blame them but I really don't understand it.

> Is there such a thing as the wrong question(s) in
> the pursuit of knowledge??

Only in hindsight. ...So, no.




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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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Giza in Enoch

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