December 19, 2007 11:10AM
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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> Hello MJ,
>
Quote:MJT: However, if you are playing “What if
> …” (a favourite pastime of mine when it comes to
> the pyramids), then I’ll happily follow you along
> that line.
>
> SC: I fully accept Khufu's was built first so this
> is a "What if..." question. Whilst I find your
> possible explanations very rational and
> reasonable, I do not see that such would have been
> insurmountable problems (as Khafre's pyramid is
> testimony to) by locating to the dominant position
> of the plateau where the 'natural ramp' would have
> facilitated a much easier task in hauling
> materials up to the plateau. Khufu's site
> required an artificial ramp extending into the
> valley and, as such, can be considered less
> accessible.
>
Quote:MJT:As you know, Khafre’s pyramid is on a
> terrace which was excavated in the north-west down
> some 33’ but built up at the opposite (SE) corner.
>
> SC: In consideration of Khafre's pyramid, cutting
> stone back to create this "terrace" can hardly be
> considered difficult - the AE were, afterall, used
> to cutting rock. Indeed, this raises the other
> question as to why Khafre's pyramid was not
> constructed further west to overcome this problem?
> It seems that Khafre's pyramid location was
> possibly 'pre-determined' i.e. as if built to a
> pre-ordained plan. Of course, one very simple and
> straightforward answer to all of this is that
> Khufu may have known that other pyramid structures
> were to be built and positioned his own structure
> to accomodate them.
Hello Scott,
Thanks for the feedback.
It has been suggested that Khafre picked this particular site because it allowed him to build a pyramid that is physically smaller than his father’s (Khufu) but appears larger.
This suggests to me ego rather than geometry at work - perhaps combined with some judicious cost-cutting.
However, we are dealing with a people evidently interested in geometry (to what level is a debatable point), so I think we can safely add an element of it into the siting of the three Giza pyramids (and other structures).
Personally, I don’t see anything beyond (for example): distance from NE corner of A to SW corner of B equals length of side of A divided by X, and I doubt the employment of anything other than arithmetic and linear (I think that’s the correct term for ‘straight lines and triangles only’) geometry.
I base this on my hypothesis on how Khufu’s pyramid was planned inside and out.
Let's assume for the sake of discussion that G2 was built before G1.
I can see the sense of opting for the high ground.
However, if sheer size was the name of the game, why is G1 not larger than it is?
Could it be that outdoing G2 required a pyramid of such size (to overcome the illusion of G2 looking bigger than it actually is) that it was deemed impossible to achieve in the required time (i.e. the lifetime of the King for whom it was being built)?
You write, ‘Of course, one very simple and straightforward answer to all of this is that Khufu may have known that other pyramid structures were to be built and positioned his own structure to accomodate them.’
I venture that if this was the case (reminder to all – this is a “What if…” session
), then the three Giza pyramids were all built by Khufu as the Meidum, North (Red), and Bent pyramids were all built by Sneferu (allegedly
).
MJ
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