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April 28, 2024, 11:36 am UTC    
July 18, 2021 04:01AM
A plank of Scott Creighton’s method in pushing the “Vyse forgery” allegation is misrepresenting those he quotes. In this case the lucky winner is Robert Schoch.

In HOAX, Creighton performs this conjuring trick (p. 18 in the print edition):

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. . . Further on in this passage, Schoch goes on to say of this mineral crystallization that it is “. . . a process that takes centuries or millennia” If the crystallization observed on these marks can, in Schoch’s words, take just “centuries” to form, then they could just as easily have formed in the near two centuries since Vyse first opened these chambers (and thereby forever changing the atmospheric conditions within them). . . .

https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=bks&q= . . .

In his chapter summary, he adds this (p. 20):

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Schoch believes that quarry marks on the blocks are authentic ancient marks based on crystallization on the surface of some marks. He states also that this crystallization process can take millennia or just centuries to occur.

The word “just” is not Schoch’s. Creighton has added it. Why has he done so? To invert the sense of what Schoch wrote. If Schoch’s intended sense were “just centuries” (or “as few centuries as two”), he would have written that—wouldn’t he, Mr Creighton? He would not (I suggest) have added the word “millennia”. And unless I’m missing something, it’s Schoch (and not you) is the geologist.

I find no sign in Void of his even mentioning Schoch. He returned to his misuse of Schoch’s words in this recent post:

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1289285/pg5#pid25966659

To the reader’s surprise, I challenged this shameless distortion as long ago as 2014, when Creighton first came out with it:

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread998893/pg7#pid17623893

I drew attention to Schoch’s words (in their proper sense) in 2005:

https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,183159,183171#msg-183171

In fairness to Creighton, I note that in HOAX (p. 18) he continues with this assertion:

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. . . Indeed, photographs of some modern graffiti to the left of the Khufu cartouche shows this graffiti entirely clear of any crystallization but is almost entirely covered with crystals in more recent images—crystallization that has taken, at most, just a few decades to form.

If Creighton has anywhere reproduced these photographs, or specified which ones exactly they are, I have not seen it.

In HOAX (p. 109 in the print edition), we find this remarkable statement:

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Photographic images of the various relieving chambers are very few and far between, with the vast bulk of images in the public domain having come from Campbell’s Chamber, which bears the famous Khufu cartouche. . . .

All the more reason (one might have thought) to be clear about the photographs referenced. Creighton purports to have seen photographs showing these details with sufficient clarity to support the judgement he bases upon them. Where are they?

M.

Edited 2021-07-18 to fix formatting.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/29/2021 09:27AM by Hermione.
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