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May 13, 2024, 11:04 pm UTC    
May 18, 2009 04:23PM
Anthony Wrote:
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> I found there to be sufficient information to
> establish and reinforce a spiritual worldview.
> Why are you relying on 40 year old books when
> there are ones published in the last five that
> have much of the latest discoveries?

I have access to these.

There have been no revolutionary changes in Egyptology in some time so
it would seem older references should still be mostly accurate. They
said there was almost nothing as recently as 1982. Surely I'm not to
believe that we've gone from "almost nothing" to conclusive proof of all
these theories in so brief a time?

> If there are only two, then you are definitely
> reading outdated material. Again, like Mercer,
> you see why these old sources are simply
> unreliable for the foundation of any worthwhile
> theorizing.

There isn't a great deal of source material. This was true in 1969 and
I seriously doubt it has changed much since.

> If you think that, then you are once again
> proceeding from a false assumption. The spell
> texts were part of large libraries of magical
> spells. The texts found in the pyramids to help
> the soul of the king traverse the underworld are a
> fraction of these spells and incantations.
>
> Proceeding from a false assumption will never get
> you close to the ultimate truth of the matter.

This is interesting. I suppose you're just talking about the similar
things found inscribed in the tombs. While this material is interesting
I believe, it is mostly just derived from the PT or from the same source.

> Your preconceived conclusion, combined with this
> artificial limitation of the evidence, precludes
> your conclusion from being even close to right.

My conclusion is hardly preconcieved.

The fact is even a wild guess can be correct where detailed study is wrong.

> > I intend to go ahead and read The Complete
> > Pyramids anyway though
> > I don't expect to find much usable
> information.
>
>
> Is that your way of saying, "Don't confuse me with
> facts"?

No. It's my way of saying I expect to see mostly opinion and a very thin
soup of facts that are mostly irrelevant to the issue and/ or I already know.

> It contains real Egyptology. If you want chemical
> breakdowns, go argue with Davidovits. He'll prove
> you are wrong using your own methodology. How can
> you argue with that?

All he can give me are the limestone data and some of it is suspect because
of his collection techniques.




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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/18/2009 04:24PM by cladking.
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What if... Khufu had died with his pyramid only half built?

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Hermione May 17, 2009 04:26AM

Brilliantly said, Warwick

Anthony May 17, 2009 07:30AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 15, 2009 02:23PM

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Anthony May 15, 2009 02:44PM

"Early Dynastic Egypt"

Warwick L Nixon May 15, 2009 02:50PM

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cladking May 15, 2009 02:44PM

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Warwick L Nixon May 17, 2009 01:10PM

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Warwick L Nixon May 18, 2009 10:09AM

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cladking May 18, 2009 11:05AM

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MJ Thomas 2 May 18, 2009 12:52PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 01:43PM

Classic Pseudoscience Argument

Anthony May 18, 2009 03:22PM

Classic Pseudoscience Argument?

cladking May 18, 2009 04:07PM

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Anthony May 18, 2009 04:24PM

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Warwick L Nixon May 20, 2009 09:32AM

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Jammer May 18, 2009 09:12AM

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Jammer May 15, 2009 01:29PM

Twisting the Texts

Anthony May 15, 2009 01:35PM

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Anthony May 15, 2009 03:16PM

Thanks

cladking May 15, 2009 04:07PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 10:35AM

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cladking May 18, 2009 11:09AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 18, 2009 11:14AM

you're not alone

Warwick L Nixon May 18, 2009 11:20AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 16, 2009 11:14AM

MIsconception

Warwick L Nixon May 16, 2009 11:24AM

I can

Anthony May 15, 2009 04:59PM

I did.

cladking May 16, 2009 11:05PM

On using outdated sources as the only support

Anthony May 17, 2009 07:20AM

All facts don't become outdated?

cladking May 18, 2009 04:23PM

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Anthony May 18, 2009 04:33PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 08:20PM

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Jammer May 19, 2009 06:39AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 20, 2009 09:45AM

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cladking May 20, 2009 10:29AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 20, 2009 10:48AM

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cladking May 20, 2009 10:56AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 20, 2009 11:05AM

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cladking May 20, 2009 11:26AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 20, 2009 11:37AM

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cladking May 20, 2009 05:33PM

Lets go Basics

Jammer May 20, 2009 06:45PM

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cladking May 20, 2009 07:18PM

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cladking May 17, 2009 08:21PM

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Anthony May 18, 2009 07:37AM

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Roxana Cooper May 18, 2009 03:12PM

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Anthony May 18, 2009 08:16PM

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Roxana Cooper May 19, 2009 02:50PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 08:37PM

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Jammer May 19, 2009 12:19PM

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cladking May 19, 2009 04:01PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 10:47PM

Enough

Anthony May 18, 2009 03:18PM

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Lee May 18, 2009 09:35AM

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cladking May 18, 2009 10:28AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 18, 2009 10:35AM

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Warwick L Nixon May 15, 2009 12:28PM

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cladking May 15, 2009 12:40PM

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Warwick L Nixon May 15, 2009 12:50PM

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cladking May 15, 2009 01:23PM

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Warwick L Nixon May 15, 2009 01:35PM

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Jammer May 15, 2009 03:35PM

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Roxana Cooper May 18, 2009 03:17PM

You forgot....

Anthony May 18, 2009 03:24PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 04:03PM

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Anthony May 18, 2009 04:14PM

Re: You forgot....

cladking May 18, 2009 08:51PM

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Roxana Cooper May 18, 2009 04:42PM

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cladking May 18, 2009 08:57PM

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MJ Thomas 2 May 18, 2009 05:02PM

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Anthony May 18, 2009 06:56PM

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MJ Thomas 2 May 19, 2009 02:35AM

Giza fueled

Warwick L Nixon May 20, 2009 09:55AM

Re: Giza fueled

MJ Thomas 2 May 20, 2009 12:52PM

The pyramid inch is NOT a fact that needs to be considered

Anthony May 22, 2009 06:42PM

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MJ Thomas 2 May 22, 2009 07:23PM

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Byrd May 13, 2009 08:43AM

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Lee May 13, 2009 10:29AM

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Lee May 13, 2009 11:27AM

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Ronald May 14, 2009 04:56PM

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Byrd May 14, 2009 09:21AM

Logisticsy half built?

Warwick L Nixon May 14, 2009 10:20AM

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Khazar-khum May 14, 2009 05:03PM

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Roxana Cooper May 13, 2009 09:22AM

this question brooks another

Warwick L Nixon May 13, 2009 10:14AM

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Ronald May 14, 2009 03:34AM

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Morten May 15, 2009 06:33AM

Got it - thank you very much N/T

Morten May 15, 2009 10:37AM

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Anthony May 15, 2009 09:01AM

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Ronald May 15, 2009 10:16AM

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cladking May 15, 2009 04:31PM

Difference uncompleted <> quarried pyramid ?

Ronald May 15, 2009 05:42PM

Re: Difference uncompleted <> quarried pyramid ?

Anthony May 15, 2009 06:00PM

Khufu's pyramid was planned, not a random collection of fickleness

Anthony May 15, 2009 06:39PM

Re: Khufu's pyramid was planned, not a random collection of fickleness

cladking May 15, 2009 11:26PM

Re: Khufu's pyramid was planned, not a random collection of fickleness

Warwick L Nixon May 16, 2009 10:40AM

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Anthony May 15, 2009 12:57PM

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Ronald May 14, 2009 04:34PM

Corrected

Anthony May 15, 2009 05:04PM

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tim May 15, 2009 11:04AM

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tim May 16, 2009 04:50AM

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tim May 16, 2009 05:23AM

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Anthony May 16, 2009 01:10PM

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Anthony May 16, 2009 12:58PM

Clarification and sub thread rambling

Warwick L Nixon May 16, 2009 01:40PM

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Khazar-khum May 16, 2009 06:40PM

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