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January 24, 2008 05:05PM
Jammer Wrote:
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> I offer as proof they had the know how; the fact
> the monuments exist as they were finished That
> stands as excellent proof.

And someone else uses their existence as proof of alien intervention. I don't know how they were built but I'm still fairly confident they were not done with ramps and that there appears quite a bit of evidence for counterweights.

> The fact they finished them with a lot of men
> doing heavy manual labor over a long period of
> time actually ties in with their historic
> documentation, which seems to indicate it took 30
> years (almost an entire generation) or so for the
> work to complete.

Experts have said that 30 years would be abn optimistic time frame for building them with modern equipment. Today there would be very little choice but to build them at the quarry site as well. For the main part we lack the infrastructure to transport many of these stones.

> This has been said ad nausea;
> just because YOU wouldn't do it that way doesn't
> mean they wouldn't.

What they would do, or actually did, was constrained by the laws of nature just as are we. Whatever they did was possible. many of the things ascribed to them would appear to be impossible. Reconcile this as you will but there are many who agree with this. The basis on which people disagree seems to be based on their training and expertise and this is true in my case as well. I know hard work and am a generalist. From both of these perspectives the means they are said to have used appear impossible. It's not so much I wouldn't do it this way as I believe no number of even the most highly motivated people could have done it that way.

Maybe I'm wrong. Even experts are often wrong. I'm sure when someone suggested they build a huge pile of rocks in the desert there were many who said we can't do it.

> We have a ton of badly worn copper/bronze tools
> used during construction recovered from the quary
> and pyramid base...

The tools, structures, and writing left by them constitute the bulk of the evidence for the means. While badly worn chisels are important information so is EVERYTHING else. Much of this seems to be explained away in isolation but there's no doubt that it is all related. Perhaps some of the information has little true bearing and can throw off proper understanding but it seems more likely that understanding is more likely when viewing what's known as a whole.

> This compares to how many belt force transferred,
> geyser driven, grinding/boring machines you've
> recovered??

I'm not ready to suggest that they had any complicated tools. Even if they did they would be made of materials that would not have survived intact. Very simple tools can be operated with the weight of water. A saw could be made with a bucket on one side and a counterweight on the other. Even drills could be operated in such fashion.

Perhaps the 1/ 64th missing from the eye of Horus was the wastage that never got up through the funnel and dripped back down to Earth. The rest was used for many other purposes including filling of the counterweights.




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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



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