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April 28, 2024, 8:23 am UTC    
November 20, 2007 10:54AM
bernard Wrote:
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> As usual a most informative post.
>
> I inquired because there is a 1971 paper by
> Welmers, that is being used by Clyde Winters, that
> argues that the Mande migrated from Egypt because
> they have saluki dogs (and supposedly these dogs
> are not found elsewhere in Africa).

I missed this earlier: my apologies.

That's not what most online sources about Salukis seem to say: Breeder sites and others posit the origin of the Saluki in the Middle East - either with Saharan Bedouin about 8000 years ago (SaudiAramco), or from the Mesopotamian/Persian area (just about 75% of most sites said this; Egypt was considered the origin point in only about 25% of the breeder sites. I saw none which posited for a sub-saharan origin for Salukis).

While not a scientific answer, I'm guessing breeders may have a more objective stance about this than Welmers and Winters: they're more interested in the dog and not its specific origin point.

I suspect Wapnish and Hesse are yet an even more accurate source for what what "types" of dogs were around in ancient times, from their study of the Ashkelon burials.

Just a thought.

Katherine Griffis-Greenberg

Doctoral Candidate
Oriental Institute
Doctoral Programme in Oriental Studies [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2007 11:07AM by Katherine Griffis-Greenberg.
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