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May 23, 2024, 4:31 am UTC    
October 06, 2005 10:06AM
Many thanks guys. I know my questions must sound bizarre sometimes but its really good when I get answers and info like that.

So basically it appears like is there is some fundamental atomic structure which electrons fill 'from the bottom up' if you like, not being able to inhabit exactly the same 'slot' as an existing electron. To [over] simplify it, when n is say, 1, there are are two slots available each with a different spin (l and m are both zero). If only one of these two 'spin' slots are filled you have Hydrogen, if the other one is filled then you have Helium. For the atom to have another electron it would have to have enough energy to leap to the n=2 shell, starting the next line of the periodic table. And so on increasing as each shell has more capacity due to more 'slots' of orientation and gemoetry being available within a fundamental structure that follows an established set of rules. That side of it seems kind of natural - even if 'slots' being taken by probability wave clouds is a bit bizare.

What I'm curious about it why is it assumed that n cannot have a negative value ? Is it that there is then a specific reason why that defies sense ? Is it because at some stage that would produce complex numbers in Schrodinger's equation ? or is it just because no element has been seen where n is below the zero point ? Or something else more specific ?

Again I appreciate its probably a stupid question but this is buggin me right now.
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Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Simon October 05, 2005 09:07PM

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bernard October 05, 2005 11:28PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki October 05, 2005 11:45PM

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bernard October 06, 2005 12:16AM

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Simon October 06, 2005 10:06AM

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bernard October 06, 2005 10:11AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Simon October 06, 2005 11:06AM

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Tommi Huhtamaki October 06, 2005 11:34AM

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wirelessguru1 October 06, 2005 01:09PM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

bernard October 06, 2005 07:15PM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

wirelessguru1 October 06, 2005 07:58PM

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Simon October 07, 2005 06:11AM

Actually...

Simon October 07, 2005 07:15AM

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wirelessguru1 October 07, 2005 10:12AM

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bernard October 07, 2005 10:18AM

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wirelessguru1 October 07, 2005 10:47AM

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wirelessguru1 October 07, 2005 10:09AM

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bernard October 07, 2005 11:36AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

wirelessguru1 October 07, 2005 12:58PM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Simon October 10, 2005 06:22AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 06, 2005 10:38AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Simon October 06, 2005 11:11AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 06, 2005 11:29AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Simon October 06, 2005 11:47AM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

wirelessguru1 October 06, 2005 01:28PM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Tommi Huhtamaki October 06, 2005 02:02PM

Re: Hydrogen on one side, Helium on the other, and nothing in between ?

Simon October 07, 2005 06:49AM

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wirelessguru1 October 07, 2005 10:38AM

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wirelessguru1 October 06, 2005 01:05PM



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