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May 18, 2024, 4:09 pm UTC    
May 08, 2005 10:55PM
> I have less kindly called it the ‘Argument from Personal Incredulity’ because it always
> has the form: ‘I personally cannot imagine a natural sequence of events whereby X could
> have come about. Therefore it must have come about by supernatural means.’

Boggus! This is not the real argument at all since ID does not assume anything about supernatural means!!!

ID assumes an "intelligent" sequence of events vs. a "random" sequence" of events! That's it. Also, every good programmer knows that code (any code) does not program itself and also that code can be layered, structured and repeated and not "randomly" organized...

> If the DNA of a human being or any other organism resembled a carefully constructed
> computer program with neatly arranged and logically structured modules, each written
> to fulfill a specific function, the evidence of intelligent design would be
> overwhelming.

Come on! Most programmers (Information Theory and Software Enginneering 101!) know very well that many "programs", specially the large and complex programs, are not that precisely constructed! As matter of fact, many good programs like Linux, are a hodgepodge of code from different programmers that share open source code that has "evolved' throughout the years...

So, once again, what you bring to the table is another boggus argument!

> In fact, the genome resembles nothing so much as a hodgepodge of borrowed, copied,
> mutated, and discarded sequences and commands that has been cobbled together by
> millions of years of trial and error against the relentless test of survival.

Welcome to true reality! That is how most complex software programs are also written! LOL

> It works, and it works brilliantly;

Indeed, so does Linux... smiling smiley

> not because of intelligent design, but because of the great blind power of natural
> selection to innovate, test, and to discard what fails in favor of what succeeds.

Not at all! Again, Information Theory suggests otherwise. It works only because of Intelligent Design. Without such design, all programs would just crash or would be stuck in permanent infinite loops! Testing, execution provide the necessary tools for bug fixing and innovation and to then discard what fails in favor of what succeeds.

BTW, all complex software program have bugs (errors) in them. Even the largest companies like Microsoft are always trying to fix these bugs and security problems, etc...

> The organisms that remain alive today, ourselves included, are evolution’s great
> successes.”

Indeed, but primarily due to a great and robust design...

Note that this argument has just started and I am also very glad to see more and more professionals and scientists joining the intelligent design side of the argument! To me, this is another very clear sign of true and real organized and intelligent evolution (with a design and specific goals to achieve!) at work vs. just random DE!!!

-wirelessguru1
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