wirelessguru1 Wrote:
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> > You can't look at the sleep habits from a
> human perspective and assume that just because
> > a species doesn't sleep many hours of the day
> they "didn't have a good night sleep".
>
> I am looking at sleep habits in general...

As opposed to sleep habits in ... ?


>
> I did not say that the human sleep habits apply
> across all species! But not having a good night
> sleep or not having enough sleep does apply across
> all species whether or not a given species just
> needs 1 or 8 hours sleep!!!

Yes but not having a good nights sleep is a specific event. If you are talking in general then you should talk of general events. It makes it easier for people like me to follow.

>
> Sleep is an integral part of the full day cycle
> just like day/night is an integral part of the
> full day cycle...
>

I'm kind of hampered here because if I say what I think, certain people think I'm being uncivilised somehow.


> > Different species need different amounts of
> sleep.
>
> Of course. I am certainly not disputing that!
>

Very wise

> > Just because an elephant only needs three or
> four hours of sleep doesn't mean it
> > didn't get enough sleep and are "tired and
> sleepy".
>
> Yes it does if, for example, the elephant only
> can get 1 hour of sleep for an entire week! 1 out
> of 3 or 4 is a much bigger percentage !!!
>

Ahh 1 hour for an entire week ? Poor little ellie

You jump around in your position so much its difficult to see what you are trying to say, other than making any kind of reply that fits some kind of concept of a reply.


> > Unless you are talking of evolutionary
> forces,
>
> Of course. The amount of sleep needed in a day
> cycle is a basic building block of all reality
> and, as such, it also evolves in terms of how
> energy is being processed by the various
> species...
>

Do you rekon there may be just the smallest weaniest little chance that it is only you who thinks that "The amount of sleep needed in a day cycle is a basic building block of all reality" ?


> > and then I would be curious about why cats
> sleeep all the time.
>
> Well, most cats are awake at night and, as such,
> they seem to be a species that processes energy in
> a very unique way. Maybe it is because they are
> looking for roddents (rats, mice) that also seem
> to come out at night!
>

Always back to the energy metaphor. You realise this is a superficial metaphor that will do far more to hide things from you than reveal them to you ? Just because the term "energy" is slightly more encompassing than the shakey concept of matter, does not mean it something that you can't get too hung up about.


> > Surely in your example cats would evolve to
> need less sleep so they could spend more
> > time in the full waking capacity for hunting
> ?
>
> Not necessarily if their primary food supply in
> the wild comes out at night! and, of course, that
> seems to be the case with mice, rats and other
> roddents...
>


This is not about nocturnal status. You miss the whole point and it makes discussion very difficult.

Simon